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I have a Rudd furnace model UGRA-04EMAES in heating cycle inducer makes pressure switch ignitor lites up no gas pressure i rplaced gas valve and board still no gas. Wat next?

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Well first you want to verify that there is gas pressure coming from the connector. Turn off the valve and disconnect the connector. Then turn on the valve for 1 second and back off. You should get plenty of gas flow. Be careful doing this!. Then inspect the opening at the adapter to the control. There is a screen inside there. Make sure the screen is clear(not plugged with pipe dope,lint ect). When the igniter reaches the 2200 degrees you should hear the gas solenoid valve click open releasing gas. If you hear it click and no gas is released you will need to inspect the burner orfices. The orfice has an extremely small hole and there is a posibillity that they are plugged with debris. You will need to use a very small wire(like a tie strap) and insert it into each hole and see if there is anything in the orfice. If you do not hear the gas valve click then it might not be getting the signal it needs due to a weak igniter or flame rectification sensor. Does your furnace have a stand-by pilot that is lit by the hot surface igniter or does the igniter directly light the burner assembly?

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  • Anonymous Feb 20, 2010

    It appears that my information was not helpful. I cannot help you if you do not respond with further comments or questions so I can assist you further.

  • Chip Graham
    Chip Graham Dec 09, 2013

    thats not even relavent

  • Chip Graham
    Chip Graham Dec 09, 2013

    Add a Commentits a 40 old furnace

  • Chip Graham
    Chip Graham Dec 09, 2013

    its forty years old noignitor

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