No bass HELLO ALL, OUT OF ONE SPEAKER ALL I CAN HEAR IS WHAT SOUNDS LIKE TWEETER SOUNDS. I TRIED REPLACING THE WOOFER BUT NO CHANGE CAN YOU HELP ME FIGURE THIS OUT? ANY HELP WOULD BE GREAT! INFINITY sl-30 BOOKSHELF SPEAKERS

Hello ROSCOE, in your ION TOTAL PA MAX, you have two elements that sound, the speaker of bass, Woofer and the treble horn, Tweeter, question, only the Woofer does not work and if Tweeter, or just does not sound anything, or does not turn on
because it depends on the condition, you can have the Woofer burned or the Woofer and the Tweeter burned or the amplifier burned, in the last case the power supply burned
Comment on the condition of your ION TOTAL PA MAX, to find the best possible solution
I await your comment
Greetings Franco Dosil


Hola ROSCOE, en tu ION TOTAL PA MAX, tienes dos elementos que suenan, el parlante de graves, Woofer y la bocina de agudos, Tweeter, pregunta, solamente no funciona el Woofer y si Tweeter, o simplemente no suena nada, o no prende
porque depende de la condici?n, puedes tener el Woofer quemado o el Woofer y el Tweeter quemados o el amplificador quemado, en el ultimo caso la fuente de alimentaci?n quemada
comenta cual es la condici?n de tu ION TOTAL PA MAX, para encontrar la mejor soluci?n posible
Espero tu comentario
Saludos Franco Dosil
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Yes the woofer and tweeter can be replaced but the woofer needs a recone kit to repair as the whole speaker cannot be replaced without replacing half of the speaker enclosure.... call JBL pro or a service center for help.

same issue here, my 6 inch woofer is good but the tweeter is not producing sound, i opened the box myself, theres not signal going to my tweeter, how can i check to see if its a wiring or other issues to diagnose myself? heres some pics

With four plug you will have a jumper from on plug to the other. (e.g. Positive to positive and negative to negative.) This is for single connection (two wires.) If you use two connections (four wires) you take out the jumpers. the bottom pair is normally for the bass and the top for treble. This is to make the speakers clearer, and sound better. As for louder,? I don't know some people think it does some don't. With better clarity of sound, you do get the feeling of it being louder.

Open the unit and remove one wire from one of the woofer terminals and using an ohmmeter check the resistance between the terminals. It probably should be between 6 and 16 ohms... they don't give the specs on the speaker... if it is very high or infinite resistance, the voice coil is blown and you be re-coning or buying new speaker. These are close in speakers and intended for a small room for studio listening while mixing. If the speaker is OK, then the bass amp in the cabinet has a failure... pray, as that is cheaper to repair than a speaker.

The typical cause of this is a blown tweeter or the tweeter has broken off of the horn and fallen inside the cabinet. Remove the screws from the horn and carefully remove the assembly. Try the speaker at low volumes to see if you hear any sound at all. Next, remove one of the wires and using a 9Volt battery quickly touch the 2 leads on the tweeter. If you don't hear a click, the tweeter needs to be replaced. Contact Mackie service for a replacement.

If you hear a click, then the problem is in the crossover or amp and further investigation willbe required.

Dan

the crossover inside the speaker box maybe burned out take out the woofer and try a diect connection from the woofer to the speaker wire.

Hi,
Well, fortunately it was the woofer that blew out. The reason I say that is because woofer material should have little to do with accurate reproduction in that frequency range. Since I don't know the model number of the speaker that was discontinued, I can suggest to you what can be done to get a satisfactory result.
1st If you have the model number on the Bass Driver AND Focal has the specifications. Go ahead and match the characteristics using THEIR data. The most important characteristics, besides the size of the driver would be the efficiency of the driver in terms of dB out. And the resonance frequency.
If these two are matched up closely, you should be good to go.
Focal is known to make good drivers, however, if you have to go to another manufacturer and you match the specs as above, then you should still do well.
If you get a newer Driver from focal, some of the characteristics may have been improved upon over the older driver. Such as transient response. If that were improved upon, It wouldn't sound really different, but it would seem tighter in the bass range.
One other thing I suggest. If you do as I suggest above and are pleased with the result, Go ahead and replace the woofer in the other speaker.
One additional point worth mentioning. Many of the foam surround speakers used in the old days in audio have failed because the foam has literally rotted away, as may be the case with your woofer. I know, as I have re-foamed enough of them. If you find a satisfactory woofer with a butyl rubber surround, it will never rot.
That would be the best replacement, as it would be permanent (if you don't badly overdrive it)
I've been an audiophile for most of my life, and I love music. I REALLY feel for you. I think that you will come out this just fine.
I hope this helps you,
Best,
Mark

the conductor xxx\blk is the minus or black( from speaker) the outher is positive\red pin from speaker) the woofer is bigest speaker inside is connected on the crossover at low output, tweeter at high output, if you connect wrong you can burn speakers and crossover, you can test with very low volume on amplifier.

1st connect low to woofer, it only her low freq below 500Hz like drums and bass, if connect on med out the speaker is working as handpocket old radio audio. if connect on high the speaker is like no audio out. (the woofer take about 60-75% of amp power).

2nd connect the midrange at mid output you can listen to human voice cristal clear. if connect on high output you listem like esteric female shouting.

And connect the tweeter at the empty output

Take particular attention on polarity terminals, if you exchange the polarity you have a moofle sound traped inside of speaker, and some structered box noise who may open the box panels in future.

After examining a picture of a 5802 ( I have been servicing adcom for over 20 years ), these are not bi amp posts, but bi wire posts.

Bi-amp means that 2 amps are being used, one for highs, one for lows. This means that you have no crossovers in the speakers, instead, you have an electronic crossover between the amps and the pre-amp. The highs and lows are separated in the electronic crossover. One amp handles the lows, one handles the highs.

Bi-wire means that you have the crossovers still inside the speakers. The amp handles the full range of music ( highs-mids-lows ). Different kinds of speaker wire produce different results. If you have bi-Wire terminals on your speaker, they come with shorting wires, that tie the tweeter + to the woofer + on the back of the speaker, and the tweeter - to the woofer - . When the shorting wires are removed completely, you have now electrically separated the tweeter and woofer from each other, while maintinaing the crossovers ( inside the speaker ) for each.When this is done, you can now bi-wire the speakers and amp, and use different kinds of wire for the lower frequencies and the upper frequencies, depending on your ears ( everyone hears a little differently, thats why there are so may makers of components, and wire ).

Why do we have crossovers?.....the tweeter voice coils ( the things that make the sound ) are made of hair thin wire. This wire cannot handle much power and if you were to put bass in to a tweeter, you would burn the tweeter out almost instantly. A tweeter is a very light, fast moving device which can react very quickly to high frequency sounds ( symbols, triangles, guitar strings....). Woofers are more rugged. They have voice coils made of heavier wire and are designed for larger movements that Bass demands. Subsequently, woofers aren't very good for high frequencies because they are slower devices.

So what do we do ?.....Keep the lows away from the tweter and the highs away from the woofer.....thats the job of the crossover.

In the event that your speaker has the crossover OUTSIDE the speaker box, you should check ( as always ) with the manufacturer of the speaker to see how it can be changed to suit your needs. Remember to always read and follow your owners manual. Good luck....Rob