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Anonymous Posted on Feb 18, 2008

My 580 ex flash fires but just at pre shooting, not when photograph is taken

When trying to fire flash , it goes off just before the shoot but not during the obturation. and this only happens when flash is set on ETTL. On manual mode it doesn't fire at all,
I obvioulsy checked the batteries, nothing wrong with it.
Only red light showing, not the green one

  • Anonymous Feb 20, 2008

    ok, this I knew, my question is actually about the lack of sinch, what can it be due to?



    Thank you!



    Joelle

  • Anonymous Feb 21, 2008

    Ok, thank you very much for your feedback, I'll try it on another camera.

    When I was talking about lack of synchronisation I meant that it looked like the flash was not reacting to the shutter, ie not firing off during obturation.

    Thank you once again!



    Joelle

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It's a pre-flash light that goes off.

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  • Anonymous Feb 20, 2008

    Hi Joelle,

    Take that flash to the store like Best Buy or Circuit City and try it out on the store camera.

    I am not sure what you are talking about lack of sync?

    Please see to my email, so I can help.

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