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Posted on Jul 02, 2017

I am constructing a standard gauge lionel layout with 223 non derailing switches. I would like to rewire them for external power rather than track power. In Classic Toy Trains mag I believe this is possible but cannot find a reference article with details on how to dismantle the switch, rewire diagrams etc. Any help or reference would be appreciated. I also read Greenburgs prewar repair book but did not find any helpful info. Thanks

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jan 07, 2009

SOURCE: Lionel train power issue

Answer a number of questions:
Is the tranformer power adequate for the train and is it a working tranformer?
Will the train run by connecting the wires directly to the two points of the train (wheels and center rail connector)?
Are the tracks new?
Is the lockon new?

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joecoolvette

joecoolvette

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  • Posted on Apr 19, 2009

SOURCE: model name BLUFORD. E139765 motherboard.

This is what I found after extensive searching,

......................O
.PWR LED- O O
.HDD LED- O O HDD LED+
.................... O O
.................... O O
.................... O O PWR LED+
.................... O O
...PWR SW O O PWR SW
.................... O O
.CON CNT O O CON CNT

Looks pretty lame, huh? I found this on Dell's Community Forum.
I gather, this motherboard was used in the Dell Dimension 2350.

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2350/techov.htm#1101565

Looking, at what Dell has for the layout of the Dimension 2350 motherboard, there are 20 pins in the J16 header, just like he has crudely shown above. I don't see one missing in the corner, though. Of course, the link above is a crude example from Dell.

This person stated it was for the J24 header on the motherboard. Also stated that it was the Front Panel I/O header. (At least that's what was stated) I believe he was confused with the Control Panel header J24. Hopefully it is for the J16 Front Panel I/O header, as it has the Power On switch, HDD activity LED, Power LED, and so on.

Indications are that the O's represent the pins. There was a statement of taking -> Note, that there is a missing pin in the upper corner, and this orients the connector view, Orients, how you are looking at the connector. Only you will know for sure. I don't have this motherboard in front of me. Dell ISN'T giving ANY info out.

This person had the Bluford E139765 motherboard, in a Dell Dimension 2350.

The statement was also made, that there is a Brown jumper wire that connects the two CON CNT pins together, but didn't know if this jumper is required, as this person is putting this motherboard, into an aftermarket computer case. (?)

Solution?
What I would do.
I would have the power supply plugged in. I would use an LED lamp, with two wire leads attached to it. Leads of about two inches long, or more. (Borrow one out of the Front Panel, or from another parts computer?)

Twist the ends of the lead wires tightly. I would then touch the leads to two pins. Should they be power Out pins, (HDD activity lamp pins. Power LED pins, and so on), the light will light up, and not short out the two pins touched.

(If the LED light doesn't light up, no biggie. It just means the wires need to be reversed. Bear this in mind, when you go to hook the LED's up)

When the two pins for the Power On is found, the computer will turn on.

Judging by the crude diagram the missing pin is on the upper right.
Only you will know for sure, as the J16 header should have a flat place in one corner, where a pin would go. NO pin.

If so, this is what I see.

Processor to the left, PCI slots to the right, J16 header on the right, above the PCI slots. The header goes along the edge of the motherboard, lengthwise.

I'll number the pins like this.
Starting at the Top Left, and going down the Left side.
Pins 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 17, and 19.

Starting at the Top Right, and going down the Right side.
NO pin, (Would have been Pin 2),
Pins 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, and 20

Pins 3 and 4 are for the Power LED. (Confusion here)

Pins 5 and 6 are for the harddrive activity LED. PIn 6 is for the + wire/

NO connection to Pins 7, 8, 9, and 10

Pins 11 and 12 are for the Power LED.
(Which ones to use? Pins 11 and 12, or Pins 3 and 4? I leave it up to you to test as the computer is on, and see)

NO connection to Pins 13 and 14

Pins 15 and 16 are for the Power On switch.

NO connection to Pins 17 and 18.

Pins 19 and 20 are for that jumper wire he mentioned. I would try it without it. If the computer doesn't come on, or something doesn't work, like the harddrive for example, I would unplug the computer from power, then attach this jumper. Plug in, and see if everything works.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on May 23, 2009

SOURCE: 34 pin FRONT PANEL insert locations.

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/opgx270/en/ug/specs.htm

This link should open an html document from Dell, providing you with all the information you seek.

good luck
tony

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jun 05, 2009

SOURCE: someone wanted the switch more than I did. however

Does this look like it?

http://cgi.ebay.com/John-Deere-L100-Scotts%2FSabre-wiring-harness!-_W0QQitemZ150347580450QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090524?IMSfp=TL090524142004r29137

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Dec 27, 2009

SOURCE: i bought the set last year of holiday lionel

If all cars are not properly on the track, the engine does not have enough power to pull the cars. Try with engine and coal car only to zero in on cause.

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