Maytag neptune fav9800aww has error for unbalance circuit always open or out of range

Most of the time a Clutch issue.

See this Sticky Neptune TL Washer FAV6800AWW 5th post for problem and 6th post for a fix.

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Read thru the post. I feel you have a Clutch malfunction even though you may not be see DC ot UC unbalance errors to the Console.

I'm seeing that around the 5 to 6 yr mark it's time for a Tub Seal replacement and possible Outer Tub and Spinner Support bearings should be replaced on the FAV6800A and FAV9800A machines. It's not too bad for most DIY owners.

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The LL error code is not documented very well.

Can you tell me what point of the Wash Cycle the Cycle Status LED is in when you error out with the LL error code?

I believe it will be in the Spin Cycle of the wash cycle.

You could try a Quick Spin test and see if the wash basket will spin up to 850 RPM with no laundry in the Wash Basket. See Page 14 of the Service Manual and see if the Wash Basket will spin up to 850 RPM.

You could also check the TDS for proper range of motion using the SM or this typed out process.
Tub Displacement Sensor Diagnostics check.
It is possible the Tub Displacement Sensor may have failed try this check which is in the Troubleshooting guide stored in your washer console or refer to the SM.

a. Enter the Service Mode by pressing and holding the Enviro Plus and Spin Only keys for three seconds or the display reads “00”

b. Press the Super Wash key display reads “in”…something like that.

c. Press Delicates the Display will show “UC” (Unbalance Closed).

d. Push tub to the back right corner of the machine the display should change to “UO” (Unbalance open). Release tub and the display will show “UC” (Unbalance Closed).

e. Press Hand Wash.

f. Pull tub to the front left corner while pushing the tub down the display should change to “UO” (Unbalance open). Release tub and the display will show “UC” (Unbalance Closed).

If you fail this test it would be time to remove the machine front cover check if the TDS sensor has fallen of its mounting position between the Tub and the washer frame.

Hello zacas6,

dC/uC unbalance errors are caused almost all the time by a Clutch malfunction. Take a look this post and see if you want to DIY the repair. I will help you through the process.

I would also check the Tub Displacement Sensor. This a thru the lid check and you get a feel of how to enter Service Mode.

Tub Displacement Sensor Diagnostics check.
It is possible the Tub Displacement Sensor may have failed try this check which is in the Troubleshooting guide stored in your washer console or refer to the SM.

a. Enter the Service Mode by pressing and holding the Enviro Plus and Spin Only keys for three seconds or the display reads “00”

b. Press the Super Wash key display reads “in”…something like that.

c. Press Delicates the Display will show “UC” (Unbalance Closed).

d. Push tub to the back right corner of the machine the display should change to “UO” (Unbalance open). Release tub and the display will show “UC” (Unbalance Closed).

e. Press Hand Wash.

f. Pull tub to the front left corner while pushing the tub down the display should change to “UO” (Unbalance open). Release tub and the display will show “UC” (Unbalance Closed).

I have some additional info if you decide to remove the Clutch in the machine if you are going to DIY.

Rich

water fill valve possibly stuck open/ water level defective sw.

If your machine is FAV6800AW or FAV9800AW the dc/UC errors are caused by a clutch malfunction. Your machine is shutting down with those errors so your Tub Displacement Sensor is working as designed.

Fix the Clutch malfunction and you can wash a single sock or a load of blue jeans and you will not take the dc or UC unbalance errors. See this post for the fix.

Post back if you have questions or need help.

Rich

Are you taking dc or UC errors to the display in spin cycle?

""Says it's a circuit or something but all that is fine."" Who made this assement?

""Still will not empty with or without clothes."" So I understand do you mean that you take no error codes to the display for this issue.?

The FAV9800AW has a different type of display then the FAV6800AW the machine I own. With limited.... no info on error codes I feel you are failing in spin cycle with either a "dc" error or a "UC" error. If so post back and we will go from there. Take a look at this owners issue and see if it similar to your issue.

Take a look through the Service Manual and see if this helps you identify error code types.

If you have water in the tube I can help you get into Service Mode and pump out the water. That will also let us know if the drain pump has failed.

Rich

If it’s a FAV6800AW or FAV8900AW and you want to DIY a fix take a look at this post and see if you or someone you know has some very basic mechanical skills and can do a clutch replacement or roller clutch bearing re-lube. The dc/UC unbalance errors are a very common failure issue with the FAV6800AW/FAV9800AW clutch.

I have put together a step by step process to perform a clutch replacement process, this repair will get your $1000 machine back in service with a $50 dollar clutch replacement. Worse case you can give the repair person some facts and maybe control cost and speed to repair. I believe you will find you will pay $300 - $400 to have it repaired.

If you pay more than $50 dollars for the clutch you are throwing money away. Clothes Washer Clutch - 25001169

You can try this test just to rule out the TDS as the failure point almost all the time dc/UC unbalance errors are related to clutch issues with this machine model.
Tub Displacement Sensor Diagnostics check.
It is possible the Tub Displacement Sensor may have failed try this check which is in the Troubleshooting guide stored in your washer console or refer to the SM.
Enter the Service Mode by pressing and holding the Enviro Plus and Spin Only keys for three seconds or the display reads “00”

Press the Super Wash key display reads “in”…something like that.

Press Delicates the Display will show “UC” (Unbalance Closed).

Push tub to the back right corner of the machine the display should change to “UO” (Unbalance open). Release tub and the display will show “UC” (Unbalance Closed).

Press Hand Wash.

Pull tub to the front left corner while pushing the tub down the display should change to “UO” (Unbalance open). If you get these results your Tub Displacement sensor should be OK and I believe it’s not the component failure producing dc/UC errors in spin cycle. I would remove the clutch for inspection and re-lube. There is a more technical troubleshooting method to check Tub Displacement Sensor in the Troubleshooting guide and Service manual.

We can turn on the drain pump in Service Mode to pump out excess water, let me know if you need help with that. The link I have in this post will send you to the Service Manual on this site in PDF format .
I believe a lot of folks toss this $1K machine when a $50 dollar clutch replacement or an even cheaper a Oneway roller clutch bearing clean up (if the bearings are rust free) will get the machine back in service.
Post back if you decide to DIY the fix and need help.

Good luck… Rich

I assume you are taking dc/UC errors to the console. This is a classic problem with the FAV6800AW/FAV9800AW after the 3yr to 5 yr mark. I own the machine and decided to learn what was involved to repair the machine. Take a look at this post and see if will give you some insight to a DIY fix to resolve the unbalance errors. No fix for the tumbler action of twisting up the clothes. After a re-lube of the one-way roller clutch bearing I could wash a single pair of socks or over load the wash basket with bath towels and extra water in the tub with no unbalance errors (dc/UC).

Shout back if you have any questions.

Here is a quick test for the TSD sensor but I believe you have a clutch issue. The TDS test is in the SM I’ve typed it out if you want to give a quick check. I’m sure you will pass and find the one-way roller clutch berings are dry/rusted and causing the dc/UC unbalance condition.



3.0 Tub Displacement Sensor Diagnostics check.

It is possible the Tub Displacement Sensor may have failed try this check which is in the Troubleshooting guide stored in your washer console or refer to the SM.

3a. Enter the Service Mode by pressing and holding the Enviro Plus and Spin Only keys for three seconds or the display reads “00”

3b. Press the Super Wash key display reads “in”…something like that.

3c. Press Delicates the Display will show “UC” (Unbalance Closed).

3d. Push tub to the back right corner of the machine the display should change to “UO” (Unbalance open). Release tub and the display will show “UC” (Unbalance Closed).

3e. Press Hand Wash.

3f. Pull tub to the front left corner while pushing the tub down the display should change to “UO” (Unbalance open). If you get these results your Tub Displacement sensor should be OK and I believe it’s not the component failure producing dc/UC errors in spin cycle. I would remove the clutch for inspection and re-lube or replace if necessary. There is a more technical troubleshooting method to check Tub Displacement Sensor in the Troubleshooting guide and Service manual.