Less than 7 month old Bosch Dishwasher Tripping GFI- Please help...
We have ~7month old Bosch Dishwasher - Model: shx84aaf5n, tripping the GFI outlet The unit powers on and as it is doing its cycle it trips the GFI outlet - I reset the breaker and then resume the cycle. It trips again after about 5 minutes. It seems to be during the heat up and changing of the cycle. I tried to run the dishwasher on the full cycle - it tripped it. And then on a 60 minute cycle as well. I reset the breaker from the electrical panel and tried it again and no luck to run a full complete cycle.
I had a dishwasher technician come out today and do an assessment. He chalked it up to the GFI outlet, and the recommendation is to hardwire in the dishwasher. However, with new code now requires GFI for dishwashers. So I'm not sure why the dishwasher technician suggested that... he didn't seem to check anything else and soley focus on the outlet.
Any ideas if this is a motor issue or heating element issue with these dishwashers??
I plugged other appliances & electronics into the GFI outlet and nothing tripped it.
I'm wondering if I should call Bosch back and get another work order to get the parts checked out. I'm worried if we get another dishwasher and get it all hooked up the same thing will happen. Or do I talk with an electrician to see if something is faulty?
Testimonial: "okay this is great to know. I ended up calling back that technician and they refused to come back out - because they were 100% sure they assessed it correctly... so I had Bosch order another work order and called another company and explained the situation. Their technician is coming out to do a full assessment on it. When I tested it the was just on a normal cycle, have never used the sanitize mode, but that Is great to know. I'm really wondering if there is a short somewhere or something with the heating element.
I did speak to an electrician friend - he said the GFI might not be enough for the dishwasher and recommended to do a 20amp rather than the 15amp it's on now. i'm not sure that will make a difference if it happens to be something internal.. but has that ever happened as a recommendation to anyone?"
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There may be a GFI plug there at the microwave, but it can get tripped by current leakage on other parts of the circuit. If there are other things plugged into the circuit (every outlet that's on the same panel breaker), it's possible any of them could be causing the tripping. Unplug anything else on the circuit, then plug things back in one by one to see if there's something that may make it pop.
The reset switch in a GFI plug is mechanical. If it's been tripped a few times, it may be worn or not fully reset. Electrical guides usually suggest testing / resetting GFI plugs monthly, both to make sure they work, and also to cycle the mechanical switch. If dust, toaster crumbs, or other stuff might have gotten into the mechanism, it might not be mechanically resetting properly. Try test/reset/test/reset a few times and see if any of the clicks start feeling more distinct.
The trip can be legit. Hopefully not the microwave, but if there is a short in the line somewhere, you really want to track it down before it causes a fire. In some cases, even heavy dust on/in outlets can cause pseudo-shorts with some current trickling to ground. GFI switches will usually trigger with less than 5 mA of current drop, so it doesn't take much. Blow out the receptacle with canned air.
The switch or it's connections may be bad. Unplug the microwave and (no cutting corners here), turn off the breaker to the plug. Undo the faceplate and mounting screws and pull the plug away from the wall. Check that the wire connections to the plug are tight, and that the wire nuts connecting the plug to the wall lines are also firm and tight. Tighten if necessary. If you're still getting trouble after trying this all, Consider replacing the outlet and seeing if that helps.
If it is tripping the GFI I would say you have created a short somewhere. Check that wire has not been braised, check the plug for signs of burning, check outlet for signs of burning. Plug another device into the outlet to see if something else trips the GFI. If something else trips it then you could have a bad GFI outlet. These are the basics to try first but could be a number of things beyond this.
Electrician. You have a short in the dishwasher which is an electrical problem. Is it tripping GFI outlet. If so the GFI is probably weak or overloaded. Try regular outlet not on the GFI circuit and see what happens.
DISHWASHER SHOULD NOT BE ON A GFI CERCIUT. THATS YOUR PROBLEM . SHOULD BE A DEDICATED CERCIUT BUT IF NOT JUST INSTALL A REG OUTLET DONT WORRY THE DISHWASHER WILL TRIP THE BREAKER IN YOUR PANEL IF THERE IS A SHORT WITH THE WATER.
The key here is to identify the problem as being either the coffee maker or the GFI receptacle... a simple test can be done as follows...
Try plugging the Coffee Maker into another GFI receptacle .. you may have one in the bathroom? If it trips that too, then you have an internal wiring problem with your coffee maker.. if it doesn;t ..then your GFI receptacle may be bad or on the verge of going bad .. either way..this should narrow the problem down to one or the other.. hope this helps..