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2007 v6 ford escape, got code p0141 changed the bank 1 sensor 2 02 sensor but engine light stays on even after reset, checked wires for cuts or burns didn't see nothing any help is appreciated.

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You'll need to test the voltage at the O2 heater leads. It should be 12V (battery voltage) while engine running or for a short period when key is turned to on position.

The sensor 2 heater is provided battery power from the PCM and the ground lead eventually goes to a common ground point for all the 02 heaters.

No voltage across the heater leads will mean an open at either or both leads or the PCM is not providing power to the sensor heater circuit in question.

Testimonial: "Thank you, what would be the easiest way to do that also is there a specific harness i can follow to see if it has any breaks or cuts?"

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    CJ Rock Jan 19, 2021

    Here's a video showing how to back probe a connector.
    https://youtu.be/Spy8AXlxVT0

    You can by a set if probes but their pricey and all you need is a few sewing pins or similar.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Oct 08, 2008

SOURCE: 1999 dodge dakota p1762 code

dont know lots about this witout engine size but some have 1 coil per cylender possible coil is bad or plug 02 sensor will cause some problems but a miss fire will cause it to run like trash

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jan 16, 2009

SOURCE: Ford Windstar 1996 Trouble Codes P0171, P0141, P0161, and P0174

Bank one is toward the front of the vehicle. Sounds like the heated oxygen sensors have gone bad. The Oxygen Sensors are located in the exhaust pipe and require a special socket to remove and replace.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Oct 20, 2009

SOURCE: location of the bank 1 sensor 2 O2 sensor on a 2001 ford escape

B1 means the sensor is located on the same bank of the engine that has the #1 cylinder. B2 is located on the opposite bank.
S1 means the sensor is located BEFORE the catalytic converter
S2 means the sensor is located AFTER the catalytic converter

You didn't say which engine you have, so I've included the diagrams of both 4 cyl and 6 cyl so you can see the banks

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jul 07, 2010

SOURCE: Code p0141 02 Sensor Heater Circuit Malfunct Bank #1 Sensor2

after the catalytic converter on the driver side in the exhaust pipe.

Testimonial: "Awesome info. Thanks!"

Anonymous

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  • Posted on May 15, 2012

SOURCE: toyota sienna 2006

Your first mistake is having a "diagnosis" by a parts counter sales person.
I wrote an article about his very subject. You might find it helpful. Click the link below to read the article:

What Else Could Be Wrong?

Then, you did not list the code that you got the first time, so there is no way of knowing if the parts sales person told you correctly on the first time or not.

Diagnostic Test Code (DTC) P0058 is defined by SAE J2012 as "HO2S Heater Control Circuit High Bank 2 Sensor 2" (SAE J2012 is the standard by which all vehicle manufacturers must define the "generic" or "non-vehicle specific" diagnostic test routines necessary to properly diagnose and repair their cars.)

To understand what is going on here, it is very important to understand that this code definition DOES NOT tell you to replace the oxygen sensor. This is an oxygen sensor heater CIRCUIT code. The heater circuit on your vehicle includes the battery voltage (B+) supply circuit and the heater control (HT) circuit to the Powertrain Control Module (PCM). Failure of either of these circuits will cause DTC P0058 to set.

The B+ circuit consists of the BLACK/RED wire at the oxygen sensor connector which gets its power from the EFI 2 fuse (10 Amp) located in the engine room junction block. There are several things powered by this fuse and there are several splices and branches in the wire. Voltage MUST be checked at the O2 sensor connector.

The control circuit for the Bank 2 Sensor 2 heater is the WHITE/BLUE wire that runs only from the O2 sensor connector to connector E7 PIN #33 at the PCM.
BOTH of these circuits must be check to make sure they are not shorted to ground and that they have continuity to their connections at both ends.

Also, after repairs are made, all engine control codes must be PROPERLY cleared using an appropriate scan tool in order to make the check engine light turn off and to prevent additional problems with the engine control system. Many uneducated do-it-yourselfers will tell you to disconnect the battery cables to accomplish this. That is NOT the correct way to do it, and this can cause voltage spikes that can damage sensitive computer equipment in your car and possibly cause fault codes to set in several of the computer modules in your vehicle.

Many do not believe that this is possible. If you want proof, pull the plug on your home PC and plug it back in a few times and see if it doesn't wreck your hard drive....

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2007 ford escape V6, replaced sensor forP0141 code persists, need diagram for the 02 sensor harness to PCM to check damaged wires had a alternator replaced before i purchased it, maybe a wire got cut

No code tells you to replace a part , need to do diagnostic's for said code .
P0141 - O2 Heater Circuit (Bank 1, Sensor 2) Description: See the description for DTC P0135. Possible Causes: See the possible causes for DTC P0135. Diagnostic Aids: See the diagnostic aids for DTC P0135. Application Key On Engine Off Key On Engine Running Continuous Memory All GO to Pinpoint Test DW .
DW: Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) DW: Introduction DW1 CHECK FOR DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODES (DTCS) Are DTCs P0040, P0041, P0053, P0054, P0055, P0059, P0060, P0132, P0133, P0135, P0138, P0139, P0141, P0144, P0147, P0152, P0153, P0155, P0158, P0159, P0161, or P1127 present?
Yes No For DTCs P0040 or P0041, GO to DW2 .

For DTCs P0053, P0054, P0055, P0059 or P0060, GO to DW14 .

For DTCs P0132, P0138, P0144, P0152 or P0158, GO to DW20 .

For DTCs P0133 or P0153, GO to DW3 .

For DTCs P0135, P0139, P0141, P0147, P0155, P0159 or P0161, GO to DW9 .

For DTC P1127, GO to DW19 . For all others, GO to Section 4, Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) Charts and Descriptions .
DW9 DTCS P0135, P0139, P0141, P0147, P0155, P0159 OR P0161: CHECK FOR A SOURCE OF POTENTIAL HO2S CONTAMINATION
  • Investigate the following items as potential sources of HO2S contamination:
    • use of unapproved silicon sealers
    • fuel contaminated by silicon additives
    • excessive oil consumption
    • glycol leaking internally in the engine
    • lead-contaminated fuel
    • short drive cycles in cold weather
    • use of unapproved cleaning agents
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Yes No REPAIR the source of the contamination.

CHANGE the engine oil and oil filter.

RESET the keep alive memory (KAM). REFER to Section 2, Resetting The Keep Alive Memory (KAM) .

REPEAT the self-test. GO to DW10 .
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I get a p0141 fault code . could this be caused by a coolant problem

no engine options (size) stated so... bad answers happen.......????
p0141 (federal code) is
P0141 Jeep - O2 Sensor 1/2 Heater Performance http://engine-codes.com/p0141_jeep.html

in bar stool , answer:
the heater is toast, (pun intended)
the heater burned up and open or is shorted.
Or as techs know>
bank 1 sensor 2 , rear , is bad or the wires cut or shorted there.
the Computer ONLY knows that test fails, NEVER why
and is never wrong.
the current is wrong. (amps)

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Codes p0054 p0141 p0036

code p0054 is
Possible causes - Faulty Heated Oxygen Sensor Bank 1 Sensor 2
- Heated Oxygen Sensor Bank 1 Sensor 2 harness is open or shorted
- Heated Oxygen Sensor Bank 1 Sensor 2 circuit poor electrical connection
When is the code detected?Heater current requirements too low or high in the heated oxygen sensor (HO2S) heater control circuit Symptoms- Engine Light ON (or Service Engine Soon Warning Light)
code p0141 is O2sensor heater circuit malfunction( bank one sensor 2)
there is chance that wire from that sensor is touching,part of your exhaust system,and either is open or shorting to ground

code p0036
036 - HO2S Heater Control Circuit Bank 1 sensor 2check the wire from the sensor for the sign cut or melting,and change the sensor
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What does the codes p0442,p0136 &p0141 mean on my 2001 ford taurus it failed inspection for these codes

P0442 FORD - Evaporative Emission System Leak Detected Small Leak

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- Foreign matter caught in fuel filler cap
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P0136 - O2 Sensor Circuit Malfunction Bank 1 Sensor 2
Possible causes- Rear Heated Oxygen Sensor Bank 1 harness is open or shorted
- Rear Heated Oxygen Sensor Bank 1 circuit poor electrical connection
- Faulty Rear Heated Oxygen Sensor Bank 1
- Inappropriate fuel pressure
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P0141 FORD - O2 Heater Circuit Bank 1 Sensor 2

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- Heated Oxygen Sensor (H2OS) Bank 1 Sensor 2 circuit fuse
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DTC P0141 - O2 Sensor Heater Circuit Malfunction (Bank 1, Sensor 2)
This code means that the heated circuit in the oxygen sensor on bank 1 decreases time needed to enter closed loop. As the O2 heater reaches operating temperature, the oxygen sensor responds by switching according to oxygen content of the exhaust surrounding it. The ECM tracks how long it takes for the oxygen sensor to begin switching. It the ECM determines (based on coolant temp) that too much time elapsed before the oxygen sensor began operating properly, it will set P0141. See also: P0135 (Bank 1, Sensor 1).

You will likely notice poor fuel economy the illumination of the Check Engine Light.

Causes: A code P0141 may mean that one or more of the following has happened:
open or short to ground in the wiring harness
O2 heater circuit wiring high resistance
O2 heater element resistance is high
Internal short or open in the heater element

Note: Typically a failed catalytic converter does not cause this code. You're more likely to see a P0420 code for a failed converter.

Possible Solutions:
Replace oxygen sensor (cannot repair open or short that occurs internally to sensor)
Repair short or open or high resistance in wiring harness or harness connectors

Here is the daignostic procedure for troubleshooting DTC P0141 (click over each image for zoom)...


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Hope this helps to solve it.

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Engine Light on --Scaning appeare Code 0141

P0141 - O2 Sensor Heater Circuit Malfunction (Bank 1, Sensor 2)
This code means that the heated circuit in the oxygen sensor on bank 1 decreases time needed to enter closed loop. As the O2 heater reaches operating temperature, the oxygen sensor responds by switching according to oxygen content of the exhaust surrounding it. The ECM tracks how long it takes for the oxygen sensor to begin switching. It the ECM determines (based on coolant temp) that too much time elapsed before the oxygen sensor began operating properly, it will set P0141. See also: P0135 (Bank 1, Sensor 1).

Symptoms
You will likely notice poor fuel economy the illumination of the Check Engine Light.

Causes: A code P0141 may mean that one or more of the following has happened:
* open or short to ground in the wiring harness
* O2 heater circuit wiring high resistance
* O2 heater element resistance is high
* Internal short or open in the heater element

Note: Typically a failed catalytic converter does not cause this code. You're more likely to see a P0420 code for a failed converter.

Possible Solutions
* Replace oxygen sensor (cannot repair open or short that occurs internally to sensor)
* Repair short or open or high resistance in wiring harness or harness connectors

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I have 2003 Ford Escape V6 I have to codes that read p0141 and p0161 and the car misfires I need help with this problem

P0141=O2 Sensor Heater Circuit Bank 1 Sensor 2
P0161=O2 Sensor Heater Circuit Bank 2 Sensor 2,
the 141 code is a problem with the heated O2 sensor on the drivers side exhaust after the converter,
the 161 code is the same except it is on that passenger side exhaust after the converter.
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Repalced O2 sensors, mass air flow sensor, and plugs error messag

Did you reset the system also sounds like you might be having ECM problems. I would try disconnecting the negative battery cable for a few minutes and reset the system and see if that helps. If that doesnt work I would have the computer checked out.
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Check engine light 97 ford explorer. obd-II po141 bank 1 sensor 2. need to locate sensor

Looked up your OBD II code for your Explorer and got the following: Bank 1 Sensor 1
The possible causes are listed below per Chilton: *same result for all engines available on your vehicle

Trouble Code: P0141 (4.0L V6 VIN E Auto)
HO2S-11 Heater Circuit (Bank 1, Sensor 1) Print this code dataprint_icon_codes.gif
Number of Trips to Set Code: 2
OBD II Monitor Type: CCM Details
Indicators: MIL Details
Trouble Code Conditions:
During testing the heated oxygen sensor (HO2S) heaters are checked for open and short circuits and excessive current draw. The test fails when the current draw exceeds a calibrated limit or an open or short circuit is detected.
Possible Causes:
  • Vacuum hose disconnected on exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) system module (ESM) applications* Short to VPWR in the harness or HO2S
  • Water in the harness connector
  • Open VPWR circuit
  • Open GND circuit
  • Low battery voltage
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The sensors themselves appear in the illustration linked to below. The illustration is for the Ford Ranger but indications are that other models have similar locations. Hope this helps with your problem. Best of luck!
Greg

http://www.chiltonlibrary.com/content/images/8968/images/89684g23.pdf
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Code # P0141 and P0138

You said you changed the O2 sensors, which ones? I do believe that sensor 2 is the Catalyst efficiency monitor, it looks like an O2 but it's function is different. This sensor is behind the Catalytic converter, the O2 is in front. Bank one is the bank that # 1 cylinder is on, so the sensor that is defective is the 2nd sensor back on that sides exhaust pipe.

P0141 - Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Heater Performance Bank 1 Sensor 2

P0138 - Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Circuit High Voltage Bank 1 Sensor 2
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