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Yaser Alkhuzaei Posted on Jul 04, 2020
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My refrigerator is general cool owned by climatic brand has started to not cooling as it should be, after a month, the freezer started not to freeze as before and gradually frozen food started to melt down. Before a year or so the upper panel between the refrigerator and the freezer started to carry a lot of water while temperature started to increase day by day. Please device what went wrong. Is it sensor. I disconnect the plug on main pcb then checked the resistance of three sensors: refrigerator R1 defrost D, , and F freezer are 1.2 ohm, 9.2 ohm and 9.1 respectively. The fzn capacitor is working Fine I checked it using the multimeter, it can charge and discharge similar to a new capacitor.

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The purpose of a refrigeration system is to move heat from the cabinet and dissipate it into free air.

When a refrigeration system is working correctly the compressor, some of the pipework and the condenser will become quite warm and hand-hot in some cases - the interior of the cabinet must then become cold unless there is a fault.

If the compressor runs and the condenser doesn't become warm, either the compressor is broken or the refrigerant has leaked away. If the condenser is warm but the cabinet isn't cool enough either the compressor isn't running long enough or the defrost panel is being left switched on.
If there is a doubt about the compressor control, the thermostat and sensors, etc. It can be temporarily bypassed for the purpose of testing the other refrigeration components and system.

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    Yaser Alkhuzaei Jul 05, 2020

    Thank you Vernon, it was helpful, I was havnt doubts on defrost system also, but, I checked the condenser, it is warm that I can place my hand on it for even 5 minutes. But could you please tell me how to bypass the thermostat and sensors as a compressor controls. How can I resend the schematic photo on fixya again

  • Vernon Taylor Jul 05, 2020

    Sorry but I don't know how you can send the picture again and as for your first question the matter needs your skill and judgement - I can only tell you how I have done it. The motor/compressor unit is generally wired into the same junction box as the power cord, the neutral being directly connected while the live is not. The live is connected to the thermostat or the relay of the thermostatic control and the return wire from the thermostat is connected to the motor - the thermostat switches the motor on or off and moving those wires, disconnecting or bridging those connections as appropriate will cause the compressor to run continuously without interference from the thermostat or defrost panel. If the cabinet doesn't then become cold enough in a reasonable time you will know the fault is with the refrigeration system (bad compressor or low refrigerant).

    If the cabinet does become cold enough in a reasonable time the fault is in the control, be it electromechanical or electronic.

  • Yaser Alkhuzaei
    Yaser Alkhuzaei Jul 05, 2020

    Thank you, I just cleaned the cage-like condenser from heavy dust accumulated on it and leavening the

  • Yaser Alkhuzaei
    Yaser Alkhuzaei Jul 05, 2020

    Thank you, I just cleaned the cage-like condenser from heavy accumulation of dust on it and left the refrigerator to drain all water and restarted it, guess what the freezer is working perfectly now, the fan motor is now working, however, initially the refregerator started cooling, but after approximately 28 hours the cooling of it is less., now is it still from defrost sensor malfunction or some other reason.

  • Yaser Alkhuzaei
    Yaser Alkhuzaei Jul 05, 2020

    Thank you, I just cleaned the cage-like condenser from heavy dust accumulated on it and leavening the refrigerator off for one day aowing it to drain water I to the tray, now the fan is working, freezer is back to normal, refrigerator has started to cool better than before, however, after 28 hrs of operation the inside or refrigerator started to have less cooling. Do you think the problem could be the defrost sensor Please advice. Thanks

  • Vernon Taylor Jul 06, 2020

    It might be that sensor if it has one - usually the defrost panel is briefly switched on after each cooling cycle to provide a continuous defrost, the melted ice then draining away into an evaporation tray fixed to the motor/compressor, leaving the cabinet interior atmosphere relatively dry.
    The amount of heat available after each cooling cycle to evaporate the water is limited and that is why defrosting tends to be little and often. Sometimes the defrost panel might fail but they have proved very robust and reliable and sometimes the defrost timer can fail leaving it switched on.

    What you believe to be the defrost sensor might be something else, perhaps a thermistor that is part of an electronic thermostat or just part of the digital temperature readout if it has one.

  • Yaser Alkhuzaei
    Yaser Alkhuzaei Jul 06, 2020

    the condenser isn't becoming hand- hot but slight-warm the controlling panel is digital type so no timers nor thermostat to bypass but only front outside door display control panel as a selector buttons to choose coldness 1, 2&3 for both cabinet and freezer. The digital controller:
    Daewoo electronic board , model N808N (FRB-59,6370NB), S/N: 3014384050

  • Vernon Taylor Jul 06, 2020

    I expect the electronic board has combined functions and replaces the electromechanical components used on earlier models and will act as thermostat/motor controller/timer and anything else the manufacturer decided to include. These days temperature/door open alarms and digital temperature displays are increasingly common. These days the electronic controller has become a small computer with the typical vulnerabilities of a computer.
    It does remain however sophisticated, a switch, and because it is just a switch it can be bypassed or disconnected as aforementioned.

    I am sorry but no one here can diagnose the problem for you. We can provide information and make suggestions but it is yourself who must decide. From your description my instinct would be to suspect some of the refrigerant has leaked away but the correct operation of the defrost panel remains an unknown quantity. That is why I would temporarily disconnect it by the most convenient method.
    The remainder must be entirely at your skill and judgement...

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Try to switch the shopping mode, this model when you put more products after shopping. If the fridge can become cold enough so the thermistor (the follower who said to the system how cold is inside, so the compressor hold the right temperature) is not working properly. That kind of faults are "registered trademark" of elektroluks and similar to them...
Fixing, two hours work, 60$ for parts and ... Try to buy used one fridge, possibly oldest...they were Better. I have seen fridge from 1964, ZIL, still working, still quietly, as the new fridges these days.

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Probly cost as much asa good used one. But condensor..compressor n evap dowear out. Dont runit so high in winter n dont crowd fridge

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check your drain line and check defrost system, defrost thermostat, heater, and timer

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SOURCE: samsung fridge RS2630SH, side by side, icing up on freezer.

You have to pull out the sensor from the board and test with tester, both sensor should read the resistance of 10,000 to 20,000 ohms. The reading that you show is very low it means that the thermistor is out of range and need replacement.

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  • Posted on Nov 06, 2008

SOURCE: My Beaumark Bottom Freezer Refrigerator Doesn't Work

problem is probably that the evaporator is frozen up preventing circulation of air and the fan is jammed with ice.
remove the back panel inside the freezer. melt off the ice with a hairdryer taking care not to heat up any stats mounted on the pipework.
appliance will now work but this is a temporary repair. you must find out the cause of the ice build-up ie why not defrosting.
for starters, check the defrost heater and the thermal cut-out inseries with it.
let me know how you get on and what you find. make sure the fan is free to rotate.
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  • Posted on Sep 26, 2009

SOURCE: Zanussi Zx99/5SI fridge not chilling freezer Frozen over

Tell you what, first do a good 12 hour defrost and restart. Chances are you left the door ajar accidentally. (even though you say you never,) Most of the time there is the issue. If it continues after that, let me know and ill go through the defrost procedure (the cheap way)..

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  • Posted on Nov 21, 2009

SOURCE: GE GSS20IEPHWW side-by-side refrigerator stopped cooling

First off, when the fans are both running, the compressor should also be running. Sometimes, because they run quietly, it is difficult to tell if they are running. Touch the compressor to feel for heat and / or vibration to confirm running. (if the compressor gets too hot, the overload will stop it until the compressor cools down. That could happen with too low or too high voltage, even with the cooling fan running) You did not say how long you let the unit defrost. To properly defrost it, you should empty out the freezer side, remove the shelves, and take the metal cover off the back inside wall of the freezer. Then, use a hair dryer to melt all the frost off. If the coils were blocked with frost, you probably have a burnt out defrost heater (located at the bottom of the cooling coils) when replacing the defrost heater, use part number WR51X10101 and follow directions, as it may have a different configuration than the original heater. A frost blocked evaporator (coils inside the freezer) will stop normal air circulation inside the refrigerator. Cold air will then be able to flow backward, into the bottom of the refrigerator side through the normal return air duct located at the bottom of the refrig / freezer divider. This cold air can freeze the water line or water reservoir located there. There for, solving your defrost issue most likely will also solve your water line freeze issue.

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