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Bernie Gallagher Posted on Oct 12, 2019

I've problem with my Necchi Lock 160 Overlocker. A needle broke and it was replaced. I got a chain stitch for awhile but now it won't chain stitch or sew. What should I do?

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What does it do when you try to stitch or sew?

  • Sam Guffey Nov 04, 2019

    Did you use the correct needle? A regular sewing machine needle my not work on the overlocker.

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bargainbox

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  • Posted on Feb 03, 2008

SOURCE: Machine not sewing

Make sure you have threaded the machine from right to left, it sounds like the needle thread is trapped under the lower looper thread and cannot form a stitch.........start the threading over from scratch like this:

  1. Lower Looper
  2. Upper Looper
  3. Left Needle
  4. Right Needle
Is there a diagram for how to thread on the inside of the door ?

Follow that slowly and carefully to make sure you have not missed any thread guides on the way, as each one needs to be followed through to ensure correct tension and thread progression.

If you are certain that all threaded correctly, did you have a fabric jam and pulled it loose ? If so, the timing may well be affected.

Post an update and we'll get this right.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 30, 2008

SOURCE: bernina 1300 dc overlocker skipping stitches

Make sure the chain stitch thread is threaded exactly as it should be, make doubly sure the thread comes off the bobbin vertically and runs through all eyes smoothly. Any faults in the threading causes extra tension at the needle despite what the tension is set on.
If this is not the cause then the needle depth and the looper timing needs checking.
Rob

bargainbox

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  • Posted on May 10, 2008

SOURCE: mock safety stitch

Sounds like the timing is a little out.

If you remove the needle plate and turn the handwheel manually watch for the lower looper as it swings behind the Left needle....the needles ought to rise by only about 2mm before the looper passes......the looper must pass the needle above the eye to catch the thread, and be so close as to be barely touching the rear of the needles......if the left needle thread is not picked up, it may be the timing, or the distance between needle and looper.

For the uninitiated, there are a myriad of variables in correctly timing an overlocker (serger), and without the manual to refer to the correct parameters, you will rapidly descend down a road of despair....if you move a looper to advance or ****** the timing, you risk looper collision and a broken looper is almost as much as a service, so my advice is do the test to see if the timing is the likely culprit, and if so, take the opportunity to give the old girl a treat.

If you need to save for a while to do it, just use the 3 thread option for the time being.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Dec 20, 2009

SOURCE: Pfaff 463 Industrial Sewing Machine needs Hook & Needle Re-Timing

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Sep 27, 2011

SOURCE: friends broke needle on my euro pro multi stitch sewing machine.

I have a Euro-Pro Multi-stitch and I use regular needles, nothing special. Singer needles is what I usually buy but only because thats what I can get where I live.

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