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How to aim on a shotgun for still targets at 20 yard with shot 4 steel shot

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Hi,
What is the type of choke you are using? You want a FULL choke for the tightest pattern. Then you need to "pattern" your shotgun. Put a large piece of cardboard (4' x 4') on a range backstop at 20 yards and place a highly visible 3 inch orange dot or simply draw a 3 inch letter x in the middle of the cardboard. Take a string, 36 inches long and staple it to the center of the dot or X then tie a pencil on the other end. Stretch the string out and draw a perfect circle on the cardboard 36 inches from the center, then remove the string and pencil. From a shooting bench, use a shooting rest to steady your aim. Shoot at the center dot or X by pointing the shotguns bead sight directly at the dot or x
Look at the pattern of holes the shot pellets made. If they are mostly centered within the 36 inch circle, your hold would be right on the target. If they would, say, be up from center, the hold would be below the target. Up and to the right, the hold would be down and to the left, etc.
A gunsmith can correct this and make the gun shoot so that your hold would be on the target instead of trying to compensate for the barrel characteristics of your shotgun.

Posted on Sep 30, 2018

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SOURCE: I have an old H&R1871 Topper shotgun patened in feb

Yes you can, those old shotguns were pretty much all the same, a lot of the parts interchange, but go to gunparts.com, they have everything there, if not, find Jackfirst, He has a ton of stuff. I have the same gun right here that was my fathers, bought in 1913 for $13, almost 100 years old!!!

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SOURCE: I had my 6.8SPC dead on at 100....I went and shot

You have to check inside the right cap for the MOA, if it is 1/4 MOA, it will not adjust 56 inches. You will need to shim the bases to get it up there and then you have a small window up and down. But, check the ballistic table for that bullet and then determine where the best zero will be, Like maybe 300 yards, then it only has a few inches to go to get 600, and a few inches down for 100. I am not familiar at all with the 6.8, I mess with military ammo only. But I don know what bullets do. Hope this helps.

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SOURCE: Top Shot Elite not aiming correctly. The trigger

Cablela's Dangerous Hunts 2011: How-to-Guide for the Top Shot Elite by Activision Hunts


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SOURCE: Hi, I have a Tasco

This does sound like it needs a bit of Loctite. But, You need to check this first, Is the scope being put in a bind due to heat from shooting. So, shoot for your group but wait say 7 to 8 minutes in between each shot. If in this case the gun stays on target every time, she is just getting hot and the heat is causing expansion in the mount / receiver area. If she jumps around during you timed shooting, then Loctite her in place, and Retry. If your sighting in slugs for deer hunting, your shots will always be from a cold gun, she needs to be on target cold not hot.

Posted on Apr 02, 2011

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H&R PREMER SECOND MODEL SMALL FRAME TOP BREAK R.F. & C.F. ----------1905-1941
Small fame double action top break revolver with double top post barrel latch; calibers and cylinder capacity, 22 rimfire-7 rounds, 32 S&W, 5 rounds; automatic cylinder stop; standard finish Nickel with case harden hammer and barrel latch; standard barrel length 3 inches, with 2, 4, 5 and 6 inches available as optional; HAS CALIBER MARKINGS ON LEFT SIDE OF BARREL WAS MANUFACTURED FOR SMOKELESS POWDER CARTRIDGE PRESSURES.
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