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Blade on Hitachi C12FCH mitre saw has begun to cut into left side of blade slot on turn table. Angle cuts (90,45,etc) still accurate. How do I realign blade run to avoid hitting turntable?

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Realign fence to blade, must be 90 degrees, using a level for straight edge bring other fence co planed with aligned fence. . You saw will only cut as accurate as you set it up., I spent over 2 hours on my 12 inch to ensure that it was vertical, exactly 90 degrees and exactly 45 degree both left and right. I used engineer squares.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Sep 06, 2008

SOURCE: craftsman table saw

Alright, I have fixed mine, so maybe the same thing will work for two as well. I actually have a slightly different model (113.298341) but I imagine the electronics follow the same basic layout. FYI, I got a manual online through Sears for free.

Mine has a manual reset thermal overload protector to keep from burning up the more expensive stuff. It is the red "reset" button near the main switch that ought to pop out if it gets too hot, and can only be pushed back in when the machine is back down to a safe operating temp. I overloaded my machine, and the protector broke the circuit, BUT the button did not pop out and I therefore couldn't just push it back in. I took out the protector, and although it looked like the circuit should be closed, there was no conductance through the protector. I took off the tiny bolt on the back of the protector, essentially jostled the thing a little, replaced the bolt, and conductance is now restored. I re-installed the protector, replaced the front cover, and now she works like a charm.

So maybe these reset switches often don't act like they are supposed to? I'd recommend just checking everything in the line, beginning with the main power line in. it will contain three wires: the ground will be bolted to the frame, the others will run to the main switch and the relay, respectively. With the machine plugged in, touch your volt meter probes to the contacts on the way INTO the switch and relay, and you should have 120V. Then, check the switch by turning it to the ON position with the machine plugged in, leaving one probe on the IN contact of the relay, and moving the other to the OUT contact of the switch. Again, you'll get 120V if the switch is working correctly. Alternatively, you could just check conductance through the switch directly w/o involving the relay contact, either way is fine.

Next in line is the thermal switch, which was my issue. Unplug the machine and/or turn off the main switch (I do both, no point taking risks). You'll need to unscrew the switch, which is a black plastic cylinder about an inch in diameter with the red reset button on it, and check for conductance by probing the wires leading into and out of the back of the black plastic cylinder. If you don't get conductance, you're in the same boat as me, and try to fiddle with the bolt and restore conductance. Otherwise, it might be the relay or the capacitor on down the line. If not those, your motor might be shot, but we'll hope thats not the ca$e.

Hope this helps guys, I was really surprised that it turned out to be such an easy fix, you just need a screwdriver, a 3/16 wrench (for the bolt on the switch), and a voltmeter that tests up to 120V and can test for conductance. One thing to be very careful of is the large capacitor in the control box. I just stayed away from it, but I would seek further advice on how to test it if you need to. After taking apart a couple of cameras as a kid, I know not to mess around with those things. Otherwise, just use the same good sense you should bring to any fix involving 120V of electricity and a 10 inch steel blade.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 15, 2009

SOURCE: I purchased the Bosch saw blade on Ebay

If the arbors the same and you're running with in the RPM rating, it will be fine. But ALWAYS wear your safety glasses.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 24, 2009

SOURCE: I just purchased a Hitachi

you should be able to adjust blade up a little bit, you only want blade to cut through tile bout 1/4 inch ,should be big knob you lossen to lift up motor and blade good luck

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Sep 11, 2009

SOURCE: What type of mitre saw blade for Pine Casing?

Fine tooth or plywood cutting blade.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Oct 24, 2009

SOURCE: Blade stops going once it hits the metal to be cut.

inside the motor/arbor section of the saw, there is a helical gear and worm drive on the motor. the front of the motor is supported by a bearing in the aluminum arbor section. sounds like most of the bearing balls are disintegrated and the worm disengages when a load is put on it but spins when there is no load. I would check and replace the front bearing.

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