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L C Smith dbl SXS 16 field grade shot gun. Left barrel says Hunter Arms Co. Inc. Mfrs Fulton NY USA. Back of barrels and on action are #'s FW 101398. Trying to determine age and value?

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Hello, John -

If you have not yet discovered the L. C. Smith Collectors Association web site, then this is the link to the association home page:
http://www.lcsmith.org/index.html

Reading the association's article here may prove instructive about your shotgun:
http://www.lcsmith.org/shotguns/1913grades.html

On the association home page, in the left side bar, scroll down to the link for Shotguns. Through that link you will find a link for Year of Manufacture. Click or tap on that link.

On the web page for Year of Manufacture, near the bottom, you will find this sentence:
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To obtain all of the existing information about your shotgun, the Research Division of the L.C. Smith Collectors Association can search the factory production records and can provide this information in a letter.
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http://www.lcsca.clubexpress.com/
There is a charge for such research, however.

Best wishes.

Posted on Mar 19, 2018

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SOURCE: browning shotgun sweet sixteen age and value

In general, a 1950s Sweet Sixteen is a valuable gun. Measure the distance from the trigger to the end of the **** stock to get the "legnth of pull" (LOP). this was 14 1/14 " when it left the factory. If it is shorter, the value will be less.

Without seeing it, although many have been altered which would bring a price $350 - $450 area.

This guide might help if you can determine the condition : OS is 1958.
AUTO-5 SWEET 16
- 16 ga., 2 9/16 in. chamber from 1937-1940, and 2 3/4 in. chamber from 1947-1975, similar configuration to Lightweight, 12 and 20 ga., gold plated trigger, 10 oz. lighter than Standardweight Model 16 ga., 1937-1940 mfg. Sweet Sixteens were available in pre-war Grades I, III, and IV. Mfg. 1937-1975 by F.N.

Grading ...............98% ....95% ....90% ........80% ........70%
Plain Barrel .......$950 ...$825 .......$725...... $625 .......$500
Solid Matte Rib $1,300 .$1,075 ....$950 .......$825 .......$700
Vent. Rib .........$2,100 .$1,650 .....$1,225 ...$1,050 ....$875

Subtract 20% for front safety.
Subtract 20% for 2 9/16 in. chamber.

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SOURCE: Pump Lever Hangs Down

My advice is to search every were till you csan find that exact model and then ask the owner what theres looks like

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SOURCE: How can i find out what length of a shells are ok to use in my Harrington & Richardson arms co. Worcester Mass. U.S.A single shot 410 ga. shot gun

It should be stamped on the barrel. If not, please take it to a gunsmith. He should be able to tell you what lenght of shell can be safely fired from the gun.

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It was built on the 1890 Hopkins and Allen patent and is very similar to several dozens of inexpensive single shot shotguns.

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Fixya.com is a website intended for asking and answering questions on how to go about repairing things. Fixya.com is not a website which can provide valuation estimates for anything, except perhaps the cost of repairing some item.

I found the following information on the L.C. Smith Collectors Association website:
https://lcsca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=274&club_id=43784
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How can I determine the value of my L.C. Smith?
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