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GE40M06AAG lower element leaking at the gasket. Will any 240V, 4500W replacement element work, or is there one recommended?

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Taking it that you are talking about a hot water system (models mean nothing with out make and type of equipment) take the old element to a plumbers supply shop( hardware shops will not have the elements) and they will have a suitable replacement
elements can be straight loops or be curved so that the follow the sides of the tank
however with electric hot water systems , the leak is not always at the gasket but at the fitting behind the gasket which has corroded internally from electrolysis for the element
recommend that as there is power involved that you get in an accredited plumber to check the system first because if the tank is leaking then a new gasket and element is a waste of cash

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Can I replace 2 3800W/240V heating elements with 2 4500W/240V heating elements in my water heater?


you can its your water heater , but the heating elements are sized to tank.. Stay with original specs The electrical may be to small for the additional power requirments

May 31, 2018 | Water Water Heaters

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Can i use a 4500 watt on a 208 volt system


Yes
Voltage and wattage printed is on end of each element
If element shows 240V 4500 watt, then element Wattage at 208V is reduced to 3375 watts and will heat 16+ gallons per hour
If element is rated 208 and 4500w, then element will operate at 4500 watt and heat 20 gallons per hour
http://waterheatertimer.org/Figure-Volts-Amps-Watts-for-water-heater.html

http://waterheatertimer.org/images/Whirlpool-energy-smart-watt-rating-IMG_2600.jpg

http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-replace-water-heater-element.html

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Aug 11, 2014 | Rheem 50 GAL ELEC TALL Water Heater 6YR SC...

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Hot water runs out to quickly. Replaced bottom element but did not help.


If dual element water heater has some hot water, that says certain things.
-Water heater is getting 240V from breaker.
-Upper element is working
-Neither element is shorted to ground
-Factory insulation and covers are in place and thermostat not exposed to cool air.
-ECO reset is not tripped and there is not overheating event.
-Water pipes and heater are not clogged.

Here are remaining suspects:
1) Leaking faucet or TP valve is leaking hot water continuously. Check for leaks.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-replace-TP-valve.html

2) Loose wire/ bad wire between upper and lower sections of water heater: remove covers and check for loose wire and signs of high heat and burning.
Also do full troubleshoot:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-electric-water-heater.html

3) Bad lower element
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-test-water-heater-element.html

4) Sediment build up bottom of tank:
Sediment build-up causes lower part of tank to heat slowly, so upper part of tank can cool, and tank has less hot water.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Clean-sediment-out-of-water-heater.html

5) Bad upper or lower thermostat: Replace both thermostats for $28.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-replace-thermostat-on-electric-water-heater.html

To preserve tank and save money long term
http://waterheatertimer.org/Replace-anode-rod.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/9-ways-to-save-with-water-heater.html

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Feb 20, 2011 | RELIANCE ELECTRIC WATER HEATER

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Can i replace 4500watt elements with 5500watt on a 606 model


1) Manufacturer's warranty will be voided, and I've never seen recommendation that suggests better heating or saving money from replacing 4500W with different wattage element.

2) That being said, you have 240V water heater.
4500Watts divided by 240 = 18.75 amps
5500Watts divided by 240 = 23 amps

20 amp circuit breaker with 12 gauge wire is rated for 80% of load = 16amps
30 amp circuit breaker with 10 gauge wire is rated for 80% of load = 24amps.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Figure-Volts-Amps-Watts-for-water-heater.html

3) You can use 5500Watt element if you have 30 amp breaker and 10 gauge wire.

Feb 15, 2011 | RELIANCE ELECTRIC WATER HEATER

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Whirlpool E1F50RD045V 50 gal elec. , top element is on bottom element is not getting 208 v, removed both legs from bottom stat has120v on each side not getting 208 from top , is their a relay not closing...


Sounds like you might have a thermostat problem, or burned out lower element
Lower thermostat and both elements will test for 120V at all times because upper thermostat only cuts off one leg of 240V circuit, and other leg is hot all the time.

http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-test-water-heater-element.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-water-heater-thermostat-works.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-water-heater-thermostats.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-replace-thermostat-on-electric-water-heater.html

Yes, the elements alternate being turned ON.
This is called non-simultaneous operation.
Look at label on side of tank: Each element has rating of 4500Watts, but tank rating is also 4500Watts > that shows that both elements are not ON at same time.
This is standard wiring for water heaters.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-it-works.html

Water heaters can we wired differently, for example converted to simultaneous operation where upper thermostat and lower thermostat are no longer wired together, so upper and lower parts of tank are independent.
Lower thermostat is replaced with ECO protected thermostat identical to upper thermostat.
Another 240V circuit breaker is added to breaker panel, and that 240V line runs directly to lower thermostat. So upper and lower thermostats are each on separate 240V line.
The advantage of simultaneous is faster recovery of hot water, but downside is probably higher electric bill. Simultaneous wiring is usually reserved for larger tanks like 80 gallons, where elements can fall behind the amount of hot water needed.
Otherwise, ordinary non-simultaneous operation is proven to be satisfactory, if your home has not experienced shortages.
http://waterheatertimer.org/B220C.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-off-peak-water-heater-thermostats.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/Do-it-yourself-water-heater-timer.html

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Feb 08, 2011 | Whirlpool Water Heaters

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Replaced both lower and top elements and upper thermostat still no hot water. proper elec. going to unit.what could it be?


You need to take 1/2 hour to learn basics and then test water heater parts before replacing anything.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-electric-water-heater.html
Follow the troubleshooting steps, and it will tell you exactly where the problem is.
Otherwise we can guess at 20 different things.

Water heater is 240V because you have more than 1 element.
Did you test for 240V across top two screws of upper element?
Breaker can be tripped off on one leg and 120V arrives at water heater so heater looks like it has electricity, but circuit is not complete.

The problem can be loose wire, bad 240V circuit breaker, sediment reaching lower element, bad thermostat, bad upper element, tripped ECO reset button.

Did you replace factory insulation and cover over thermostats after replacing elements?
Did you vacuum out sediment when replacing lower element?

How long ago did you replace elements? If you turned power ON before tank was completely filled with water, then you burned out the element. If upper element is burned out, the tank has no hot water, even if lower element is good.
Test the upper element:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-test-water-heater-element.html
See how a water heater works:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-it-works.html

And finally, why so many folks write to fixya saying they replaced both elements and upper thermostat, but they never replace lower thermostat for another $6? I have been puzzled about that since lower thermostat turns on and off each time tank temperature drops and is responsible for keeping water warm during standby hours. Lower thermostat cycles more times than upper thermostat.

Add a comment if you need specific assistance with any of the testing steps.

Dec 14, 2010 | Rheem 40 GAL ELEC TALL Water Heater 6YR SC...

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I need to know if i have the right element for my water heater. i have the reliance 501 4500w/240v id # 5 40 2ort0 w i want to know if i need the long 1 or the bent 1. would love a pic if possible. i...


Either element will work ... straight or bent.
4500 Watt element will work, buy you can also substitute 3500, or 1500 Watt.
Stepping up wattage larger than water heater nameplate is not recommended, because wiring may not carry more watts.

Element wattage is printed on end of each element.

Reliance is AO Smith company
http://www.aosmith.com/OperatingUnits/Detail.aspx?id=138&ekmensel=c580fa7b_12_0_138_3

Reliance 501 manual is not available on Reliance site.
The 501 used to be standard model, but now it's the 600 series.
http://www.reliancewaterheaters.com/prod/elec.html

600 series manual is similar to your product.
page 22 shows element replacement, and says not to use greater wattage than rating plate on water heater.
http://www.reliancewaterheaters.com/lit/om/manuals/185761-000.pdf

Age of Reliance heater is on serial number. First character is letter. Next two characters are numbers corresponding to year. So C05222,,, serial number is made in 2005.

Nov 19, 2010 | Reliance Better Water Heater Element

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After connecting a drain line to the pressure relief valve of my MR85245 water heater, I now have water leaking badly out of the heating element door.


Turn off the electricity.
Turn off the water valve going into tank.
Open a bathtub spout to let hot water pressure off the tank.
Check top of tank for any leaks.
Open the top access panel and see if element is leaking.
Open bottom access panel and see if lower element is leaking.
The reduced pressure on the tank will slow the leak.

If element is the problem, you can squeak by for a while by turning on the hot water heater only when you need hot water.
Order the 'Marathon MR85245 replacement element' online
http://www.gpconservation.com/rheem/marathon-sp213670-titanium-4500w-lower-element
These elements may be available locally, but they are not the same as 'ordinary' tank-type electric heater elements that you buy at the hardware store.
Buy more than 1 element because the Marathon elements have problems.
One of the reported problems with marathon elements is the high price of stainless steel replacement elements.
Drain tank.
Replace element.

Another resource for water heater information is:
http://www.thetankatwaterheaterrescue.com/forums/forum3/

Nov 04, 2010 | Water Heater Innovations MR85245 High...

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Installed new upper & lower elements & thermostats, only top htr works


If original problem was caused by sediment burning out lower element, did you clean sediment out of water heater when changing lower element?
Two element water heaters are 240V.
Thermostats cut power on one hot wire, but 240V circuit has 2 hot wires. So lower element has power at all times coming from the red wire.
1) Use ordinary tester or multimeter set to 240V <> test each screw of lower element to bare metal part of water heater. Each screw should show 120V. If there is no power, then upper thermostat is defective, screw on upper thermostat is loose, or red wire between upper and lower parts of water heater is bad.
2) Remove wires from lower element. Use continuity tester or multimeter set to ohms <> test across both screws of element to see if power travels through element <> if element is bad, then continuity tester will not light up and multimeter will show no ohms. Put wires back on element after test.
3) Start with cold water in tank. Turn on water heater & upper element will turn on. Put ear on side of tank to hear if upper element is heating water. Test #3 screw to #2 screw on low left side of thermostat, should read 240V > Test #3 screw to #4 screw on low right side of thermostat, should read 0V.
Put ear on side of tank. When upper element turns off: Test #3 screw to #2 screw on low left side of thermostat, should read 0V > Test #3 screw to #4 screw on low right side of thermostat, should read 240V. If this test shows 0V and 0V, then upper thermostat is bad. If reading is correct, immediately move to next test.
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/Thermostats-numbered-divided-500.jpg
4) Turn temp on lower thermostat to 150. Using ordinary tester or multimeter set to 240V <> Test across both screws of lower element. If there is no reading, and you know element is good from step 2, then lower thermostat is bad, or wire is bad between lower element and lower thermostat, or wire is bad between lower thermostat and top part of heater.
5) Test across both lower thermostat screws, should read 240V.If this test is good, it means wires are good. Put jumper wire across both screws of lower thermostat, and test lower element again. If element finally turns on with jumper wire, then lower thermostat is bad.
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If wire is bad between upper and lower parts of water heater, and water heater has tight-fitting 2" foam insulation, it usually indicates water heater replacement.

Sep 20, 2010 | Rheem 50 GAL ELEC TALL Water Heater 6YR SC...

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Installed new rheem 40 gal elec water heater. model ge40m06aag. no hot y already checked breaker and am getting. 240v to the wh


did you turn the power on BEFORE you filled it with water???

this is a pretty common mistake. you will need to check the upper element to make sure its working.
most water heaters have an upper and lower themostat. the upper thermostat is the one we need to check.

use your volt meter...

turn the power off, test with your volt meter to make sure! remove one wire from the element, not the thermostat, and check resistance on the element. if no resistance, you burned the element, and will need to replace it.
replace with same wattage, usually 4500watts. it will be written on the element.
also, I like to push the reset button on the thermostat to make sure it wasn't tripped.

Aug 31, 2010 | Rheem 40 GAL ELEC TALL Water Heater 6YR SC...

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