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Wirlas Nyamugure Posted on Apr 05, 2017
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Generator starts before it gets upto speed the frequency and voltage lights flash and the generator shuts down within 30 seconds from start. What is the problem?

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1 Check that the auxiliary batteries are connected (series or parallel) so that the rated voltage corresponds to the engine system voltage.
2 First connect the red (+) jumper cable to the auxiliary battery, then to the flat battery. Then connect the black (-) jumper cable to the auxiliary battery and to a location that is somewhere away from the discharged battery, e.g. the main switch negative terminal or the negative terminal on the starter motor.



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Mybe power from the commercial supply had failed . Or power surge occured and the genset detected power failure.
The other cause could be air bubbles in the gasoline.The genset may need bleeding to remove air bubbles in the gasoline.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Dec 03, 2008

SOURCE: kohler 12kw generator starts but shuts down after 3sec

Your gas pressure is too low and you may not have a large enough supply pipe. You need at least 10 inches of water column with the engine running to operate an LP vapor fueled engine. Because the engine is starving for fuel, its governor opens the throttle to WOT (so it goes to high revs) but there isn't any fuel to make horsepower with so the output voltage falls and the undervoltage alarm trips.

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Craig Butler

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  • Posted on Aug 21, 2009

SOURCE: The generator starts up runs for about 15 seconds and shuts down.

Check the oil pressure switch



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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Sep 10, 2009

SOURCE: I have a Honda 7000 EM inverter generator. When it

ARE SURE ITS THE OVERLOAD LIGHT AND NOT THE NOIL ALERT? IF ITS THE OIL ALERT ITS CAUSE YOUR LOW ON OIL OR THE SENSOR INSIDE THE GENERATER IS BAD?

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  • Posted on Oct 11, 2009

SOURCE: ust 3000 generator-only idles-no voltage output

chek brushes...if they seemed ok then replace AVR card

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  • Posted on Mar 09, 2010

SOURCE: onan generator emerald III genset. I push the

Here are the most common reasons for your condition.

CHECK IF ENGINE KEEPS RUNNING The most common complaint is that the engine starts but will not keep running when the START switch is released. This happens because the control board will not allow the engine to continue running if the generator is not producing voltage or if the oil pressure signal is not present. See CONDITIONS REQUIRED TO KEEP RUNNING on the Troubleshooting Chart for your model. If the engine will not keep running, do the following:
A1. Generator AC Output Check the generator AC output voltage as soon as the engine starts. Models showing "B1-B2 Volts" or "L1 AC Volts" under CONDITIONS REQUIRED TO KEEP RUNNING need this AC voltage to keep running. Read between the points shown on the Troubleshooting Chart. If the AC voltage readings are good, proceed to "B" below.
A2. Field Flash If there is no AC, check for 10-12 VDC at the FIELD FLASH pin of the control board during cranking. If the field flash voltage is not present, the control board is defective. If the field flash voltage is present, the wiring or regulator may be defective. To eliminate the wiring, check continuity between the FIELD FLASH pin of the control board and pin 7 of the regulator. If the continuity is good, either the regulator or the field circuit (rotor and brushes) may be the problem.
A3 Field Circuit Check the field circuit by unplugging the regulator and measuring the resistance between pins 9 and 10 of the regulator’s mating plug. This reading should be 22 to 28 ohms. If this reading is too high, check the brushes and/or clean the slip rings (use the Slick Stick, or a similar tool). If this reading is too low, there may be a short in the rotor. Also, check the resistance from pins 9 and 10 to ground. This reading should be very high or infinity. If not, there is likely a ground in the rotor. If these readings are all good, the regulator is likely defective.
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A4 External Excitation To confirm that the regulator is defective, turn off the generator’s AC circuit breaker(s), reconnect the regulator and apply 12 volts through a diode to pin 9 of the regulator plug (see illustration) while attempting to start the engine. CAUTION: DO NOT attempt this without the diode. If you do, there will be fireworks! Remove the 12 volts within 1-2 seconds after the engine starts. If the genset now continues to run and produces normal AC voltage, the generator is OK and the regulator is defective. If the genset does not continue to run but produces about 40% of normal AC voltage, again the generator is OK and the regulator is defective. If no AC voltage is produced, the generator may have a problem that is beyond the scope of this guide. Re-check all wiring for security and signs of damage. It may be necessary to take the unit to a qualified repair shop.
B. Check the oil pressure switch as soon as the engine starts. Models showing "LOP to GND" under CONDITIONS REQUIRED TO KEEP RUNNING need the oil pressure switch to be closed to ground when running. If the voltage on the LOL/LOP SW pin of the control does not go to near zero, the switch is not closing. These switches sometimes stick open if the generator has not been used or exercised often enough. Multiple start/stop cycles and/or tapping on the oil pressure switch will sometimes fix it. It may be necessary to temporarily jumper the switch to ground to keep the engine running. This can be done at the switch or at the OIL LOL/LOP SW pin on the control board. Models showing "LOP Open" under CONDITIONS REQUIRED TO KEEP RUNNING have electronic governors and require the low oil pressure switch to be closed at starting but open during running. When the switch opens, the governor module places a ground on the oil pressure input of the control board (P1-5). It is OK to temporarily ground P1-5 on this model to keep the engine running. NOTE: See chart for oil pressure and oil level switch locations.
C. If there is AC voltage present on B1-B2 or L1 AC, as applicable, and the correct oil pressure/level signal is present at the OIL LOL/LOP SW input of the control board, and the engine will not keep running, the control board is defective.

This should help you get it going.

Kelly

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Trace sw5548 inverter will not auto start kohler 14RES generator nor will it turn off at inverter.

Six steps of start-up Shangchai generator set :
A.Unscrew the deflation screw on the fuel injection pump, use the fuel hand pump to remove the air in the fuel system, and fix the adjusting control handle on the throttle position of the suitable starting speed;
B.Pressthe generatorstart button to start the diesel engine. If the diesel engine can't start in 10 seconds (up to 15 seconds), it should wait for 1 minute before starting for the second time. If it can't start for three consecutive times, should check and find out the cause of the failure;
C.After diesel generator set start up, the no-load speed gradually increases to 1000-1200 r/min (note not to run at low speed for a long time). After the diesel engine is preheated, the speed is increased to the rated speed. When the outlet water temperature reaches 55 degrees Celsius and the oil temperature reaches 45 degrees Celsius, full load operation is allowed;
D.After starting the diesel engine, pay close attention to the reading of oil pressure gauge (2.5-3.5kg/C?in normal operation). If the oil pressure gauge does not indicate, stop immediately and check whether the ammeter has charge indication;

E.After the diesel generator set is put into normal operation, should observe the changes of water temperature, oil temperature and oil pressure at any time, and should handle the reading of power meter, frequency meter, ammeter and voltmeter in time if abnormalities are found;
F.When each instrument of the genset indicates normally, can turn on the load switch to send power to the load. With the change of load of the genset, if the frequency and voltage are not within the prescribed range, should adjust the frequency and voltage in time to maintain the rated value. It is strictly prohibited that the genset carry load at low speed, so as to avoid damage to the equipment.
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Generator Not Producing Power - Engine Speed & Governor Control

There are 4 requirements that have to be met before a generator is able to produce power. Due to number of questions that have been asked, a Coleman PowerMate 1500-1850 with a Briggs and Stratton Engine will be used here.

1) The Engine has to be turning at correct speed
2) Field Winding (Rotor) on the alternator must be energized
3) AC Winding (Stator) must create a voltage in presence of magnetic field
4) Output passes through Safety Devices before it reaches an outlet.

This Tip will cover Engine Speed and Governor Control.

Sounds simple, but it actually goes beyond just turning. Most consumer generators are designed for an engine that turns 3600RPM for 60Hz operation. For every 600 RPM, the frequency changes by 1 Hz. Normal frequency range on a generator is about 63 (at no load) to 57 (Full Load). At half load, you should be pretty close to 60 Hz. Some generators will turn at 1800 RPM, and usually have two or more cylinders. Each 1Hz deviation is a 300 RPM change in engine speed

If you find that your engine is not turning as fast as it should, or is turning too fast, you can adjust its speed using the governor. Be careful in this area though! If you are adjusting faster, and you make too much an adjustment, the engine may over speed (red line) and be damaged. Always be ready to shut down the engine in case something goes wrong.

General Instructions on How to Adjust Speed:

It will almost be required that you have a digital multimeter that is capable of measuring frequency. You can use a AC powered clock, and compare the minute intervals with another clock, but the adjustment process will take a few hours.

Start your generator, let it run for a few minutes to warm up. Place your meter leads into the outlets, and record the frequency. This will be your No Load Frequency prior to any adjustments. Also record the voltage.

Note that depending on your meter, your voltage will likely read about 132 volts AC. If your meter is of the dollar store variety, the voltage may be reading higher (170) due to noise being present in the waveform. Don't worry about this - yet.

Now that the engine is warmed up, and your meter is indicating that the frequency is less than or higher than 63Hz, it is time to adjust the governor. Each engine will have its own method, you may have to find a owner's manual or service manual.

Start by removing any access panels that you need in order to reach the governor assembly. This will be the arm that is attached to the throttle on the carburetor via springs and rods. Look carefully near the base of the governor arm, and you will see a spring that is attached to it, and the other end is attached to a tab. The purpose of this spring is to put tension onto the governor, as well as to allow adjustment. Inverter based generators will usually have an electronic governor. The throttle is actuated by a small servo motor which is driven by the inverter / controller. These types of governors are typically not adjustable beyond replacing mechanical linkage that is worn.

Using a pair of needle nose pliers, bend the tab slightly one direction or the other (toward governor, or away from governor). Note the change in frequency. The target here, without a load, is going to be 63Hz. Once you hit this target (frequency average is 63), take a look at the voltage. It should be near 132 volts AC. If it is much higher, then lower the voltage by bending the tab slightly. Be aware that this will also lower the frequency as well.

Now that the unloaded frequency is set, connect a load that is approximate half of the generator continuous rating. For an 1800 watt generator, the continuous load is 1500 watts. Half would be 750 watts. A couple of Halogen lights will work, as well a space heater that is set on Low. Your frequency should be very close to 60Hz now. Voltage will likely be around 125 volts. Adjust the governor very slightly to reach these numbers. Your half load frequency is now set.

If you are using a space heater for a load, turn it on (1500 watts), and note the frequency reading. Also note the voltage rating as well. Frequency will likely have dropped down to about 57 or 58. This is normal. Voltage should be down around 110 to 115. Don't make any adjustments as most generators are due not carry full loads for extended amounts of time.

Turn the heater back to low or fan only, and let it cool for a few minutes before turning it off. Unplug the heater, and check the frequency and voltage without a load being on the generator. Again, frequency with no load should be about 63Hz, voltage about 132. A little bit of difference is acceptable here. And now you are done.

If you are not able to obtain the numbers mentioned, then there are other issues going on. Especially if voltage is out of range. See other Tips.

If you intend to use the generator primarily with a certain load (heater, well pump, charger, etc) you can optimize performance of that load by setting the generator frequency with that load, and only that load connected. Just keep in mind that when you add additional loads, your settings may not be adequate.
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I have a kipor 6700 generator with digital controls/display it starts but shuts down after 20 seconds with a little Hz sign in the display?

If you are in Europe, you run 240 VAC @ 50 Hz. If you are in the U.S., you run 120 or 240 VAC both @ 60 Hz. Assuming that it's NOT an inverter generator, if your engine is running too fast or too slow, your frequency will be too high or too low which can damage sensitive electronics or electric induction motors. Apparently, you have a well controlled / monitored generator. While it is still running during those 20 seconds, I would check for your local voltage at it's output. If it is well above or below it's rated voltage, it's frequency will be out of range also, again, assuming that it's NOT an inverter generator. If it is an inverter type, you'll have to take it to a service center for adjustment. If not and the voltage is out of range, I would try adjusting the engine speed to bring it back into spec. I am in the U.S. My father in law had a craftsman 3,650 watt generator that didn't have the monitoring that yours does but it did the same thing. It would run for 20 or 30 seconds and quit. The oil was up and all looked well. I disconnected the low oil pressure switch and it ran fine. I replaced the switch the next day. I have a 7,000 watt Troy Bilt that I have wired into my house for emergencies but I bought a small, cheap Champion brand 1,400 watt generator for portable use. I brought it home and fired it up and out of the box it was putting out 133 VAC instead of the standard 120. I turned the idle down until it read 120 VAC and it works fine as long as I don't try to run a window A/C unit or fridge. It doesn't have the guts to start the compressor but it works great for lighting, TV's or small hand tools. Good luck.
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I have an RV with an Onan 4000 Genset. I have no power to the generator switch. I found that my hot wire from my battery had fallen onto my tailpipe and possibly caused damage to the generator.

  • The completely automatic transfer switch monitors incoming voltage from the utility line, around the clock.
  • When utility power is interrupted, the automatic transfer switch immediately senses the problem and signals the generator to start.
  • Once the generator is running at proper speed, the automatic transfer switch safely shuts off the utility line and simultaneously opens the generator power line from the generator.
  • Within seconds, your generator system begins supplying electricity to the critical emergency circuits of your home or business. The transfer switch continues to monitor the utility line conditions.
  • When the automatic transfer switch senses the utility line voltage has returned at a steady state, it re-transfers the electrical load back to the utility line and resumes monitoring for subsequent utility loss. The generator will continue to run for an engine cool-down period of several minutes while the entire system stands ready for the next power outage.

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Have Onan 3.6 KY propane gen that will not keep running. Runs only as long as start switch is pushed. Then stops immediately after release. Fault code is 15 (underfrequency) and suggests removing heavy...

I am not familiar with your peice of equipment but from your description of the fault being Under Frequency it appears that generator governor is out of adjustment or the governor spring has brcome weak or broken and not allowing the engine to run at the correct speed to produce an output frequency within the allowable tolerance. Governor linkage could also be binding and not moving smoothly to respond properly to engine load conditions. Thoroughly check governor and throttle linkage for free and smooth operation and full range of movement.
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You should also check the idle control mechanism if there is one on the generator, with it on the generator should start up at regular speed, then slow to idle speed, then rev back up to regular speed when you draw current from the generator. To check it use the DMM to measure the speed at startup ( should be 61.5 Hz), when it idles down (about 37 Hz), when you're drawing power from any other outlet ( pretty close to 60 Hz). If the generator has idled down and you shut off the idle control it should rev back up immediately.

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