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Counter depth refrigerator M#: KBRC36FTS04. Door is hard to open right after it has been closed. It's like a vacuum or suction feeling. Otherwise it opens fine.

Fridge has been operating from a little over a year, but was bought through a salvage dealer (scratch 'n dent). It is new otherwise. It feels like a vacuum kind of force.

  • joepiccaso Oct 11, 2016

    I wasn't angry, but a bit taken back that you would suggest that KA would make a fridge that acts like that. I will try to figure this out. It is M#: KBRC36FTS04, bottom freezer, cabinet depth, built-in. I'm not sure I'm up to removing it to look. Your cloth idea is sounding more appealing. I had one of these at my other house for years and never seemed to have any issues like this. So, if I do find that drain tube on the back, where does the hot water go? Is the drain tube on the back the air vent so the water will drain properly?

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It means that the door seals are excellent and nothing at all to be concerned about
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  • joepiccaso Oct 10, 2016

    I agree the seals are good, but it is a problem. I can't get back in w/o pulling very hard. My wife virtualually cannot. Reopen it until it sits a minute. I like the fact it seals well, but when we are cooking, especially when both are cooking, it is more than inconvenient to wait for the door to Beatle to be opened. I appreciate the quick response. Thank you.

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    John Tripp Oct 10, 2016

    Try hanging a wash cloth in the door while working and cooking it may relieve much of the vacuum while needing to get in and out of the refrigerator so much.

  • joepiccaso Oct 10, 2016

    I hope you are kidding! Are you serious, that they would make a fridge that you can only open after a minute's rest? There has to be some kind of valve or something that allows teh negative pressure inside a fridge to equalize. I saw below where someone wrote from another similar question to flush out the "Drain Tube" with boiling water and a Turkey baster. Does my fridge have such a tube, and if so, where is it and where does teh water drain to? I just can't believe this is normal. I have felt it on other fridges before, but never like this. I'm a big guy and I have to put one hand on the counter or cabinet to push from while I pull the door open. It's that difficult for a short while. This is like a time-lock on a safe. I appreciate teh help and hope you were just trying to be cute with t he rag suggestion. Thx, Joe

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    John Tripp Oct 10, 2016

    Joe I wasn't trying to be cute I was only trying to make this less complex than having to go into the defrost condensate drain line and make an adjustment. If that is what you would like to do then I will be glad to assist you. Give me a few minutes so I can look up your model and I will be right back with you or just give me a call at 864-812-1887....John Simpsonville Appliance Repair

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    John Tripp Oct 10, 2016

    Pull the refrigerator away from the wall and disconnect the power from the wall. Remove the lower panel that covers the compressor and condenser. I'm not sure about the clamp that attaches the drain tube to the base of the fridge but be ready to remove the clamp if you see that it prevents you from 100% clear inspection of the drain from obstructions. There may be a duck bill on yours that is clogged but with the loop Drain there may not be a duck bill. Questions?

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    John Tripp Oct 10, 2016

    Let me know what you find Joe

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    John Tripp Oct 10, 2016

    Can you see the drain opening from the freezer side on your model? Can you pour hot water in the freezer condensate drain and see it drain clearly into the drain pan under your fridge.

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The door is probably not actually locked. When you close the door, it draws the air out briefly. It is very important that it does this to reduce the moisture in your refrigerator, and allowm it to work properly. When it is pumping that air out, it is under a vacuum and is sucking the door closed. With most of them you can pull the door very hard during this time and get it to open, but it can be very difficult, and a good way to strain your arm or back.
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