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Changed hard drive and now nothing works

I have an IBM T20 Notebook with a 20Gig hard drive that was getting full. I ran Acronis TrueImage to create a backup image file then after connecting this drive to one of my desktop computers restored the image file. (I have a special connector that lets me read/write notebook hard drives.)

The drive is a Seagate Momentus, 120Gig, 5400 rpm. In the T20 it starts to boot then says NTLDR not found and quits. The drive is formatted as FAT32.

Then I formatted the drive on my desktop, changed it to NTFS then put back in the notebook and tried to boot with a true Windows XP Pro CD. This starts loading setup software but when it gets to the point that it is supposed to start installing Windows it restarts the PC and starts the boot sequence all over again.

Next I tried the original IBM Recovery Disk (Win98). It starts to run but hangs after about 10 lines appear then hangs at "Driver was installed successfully". I would have thought that it would keep running so I could fdisk the notebook.







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  • Nicholas Nov 18, 2007

    Please reread my problem description. I did exactly what you are recommending.

  • Nicholas Nov 18, 2007

    I suspected that the T20 has a limit on size of hard drives. I am curious though why some people are offering 80GB drives or larger that they claim will work on the T20.

    I will order a 30GB drive and let you know if it works.

  • Nicholas Nov 29, 2007

    I have fixed this problem. Here is my solution:



    1. Discovered that the hard drive was badly corrupted. How it got there is unknown. But here is what I did to find out what was wrong with it:

    a.

  • Nicholas Nov 29, 2007

    Oops. I accidently hit the tab key. To continue:

    a. Installed the 2.5 drive on my desktop and ran Partition Magic. It said the drive was corrupted and would not format the drive at all.

    b. Installed the drive back to the notebook and tried to boot with a Win98 floppy disk. This worked. But next tried fdisk. Found an NTFS partition and a FAT32 partition. Fdisk would not delete either of them. Nor could I create a new one.

    2. Drive fixed

    a. Rebooted with a DIY Diskpatch floppy disk. (Search Google for particulars on this product). This program allows low-level patching of hard drives. Its sector write tool rewrote 48GB of data then quit. Then the program would hang and I could not repair the boot sectors.

    b. Rebooted with the Win98 floppy. This time fdisk was able to remove all partitions and create a new one. Then I was able to run the format tool.

    c. Rebooted with the Acronis floppy disk set and restored the backup. (Note: that the original back up was on a FAT32 drive.) This time Acronis asked how much of the drive to use for the restored image. I wasn't asked this the first time I tried it. I accepted the full drive and Acronis took the entire 120GB.



    3. Comments: The IBM T20 notebook obviously can take a 120GB hard drive. I am almost afraid to use Partition Magic to change the format to NTFS since that is where I had trouble the first time. I have since discovered that one of my RAM sticks is intermitently bad. It could have gone bad during the Acronis backup or the restore and caused the corruption on the hard drive.

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Was your notebook an OEM In that case you should have used a win 98 boot disk to boot the notebook insteadof the XP PRO disk and then
you could have used fdisk & checked verified that
you could read the C: drive

If it is formatted as win 32 it shouldnt have asked
for ntldr,are you sure you didn;t have a XP floppy
or cd on the system. that it was trying to boot from

Posted on Nov 17, 2007

  • Eugene Merritt Nov 30, 2007

    You could convert to NTFS after you install
    your OS system

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Instead of using an image file, i would try using drvclonerxp, it is freeware. I have used acronis trueimage in the past, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt.. these days i use the cloner listed above, or norton ghost.

i did some research, and the hard drive should be compatible with that laptop, so the main issue seems to be a failed image, if you have a computer laying around with similar specs, you can try using it to image the new drive, a lot of times subtle differences in the lba or access mode may cause the image to write but not read properly when installed in the old system.

the original ibm recovery disk (at least in my experience) seldom works on older laptops when you make a hardware change, it is trying to install custom drivers for a hard drive that no longer exists.

hope this helps, if not post a followup and i will see what i can come up with.

Posted on Nov 17, 2007

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    Trinity Sabre Nov 18, 2007

    before doing this, please go into your bios and check to make sure it recognized the harddrive. I can confirm that you can use up to a 100gig harddrive on a t20, i am using one right now... ibm only supported up to a 30gig before they ended support on the model, this laptop was upgraded from a working 60 gig.

    if it is detected, try using a different drive cloner as this usually clears up the problem.

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This is issue is came your IDE cable for your laptop hard drive. I hope you can provide me instant messaging assistance to assist you in troubleshooting your hard drive problem.

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Posted on Nov 17, 2007

  • Anonymous Nov 17, 2007

    I was recently, reviewed your IBM T20 specification it sound compatibility issue. Since, IBM T20 can only support up to 30GB hard drive. It means you cannot installer more that 30GB capacity. Sorry for that information but that was the hard findings I learned with your problem.

    The only way to avail that new 120GB inorder it us usable, you need to buy an enclosure that will convert the IDE to USB connectivity. Your old one 20GB will be set as your primary where you are going to installed the operating system while your 120GB is your external saving files or backup data only thru USB port.

    Try to check this website for enclosure pricelisthttp://www.xpcgear.com/ue940motb.html.

    Hope you will approved my solution as SOLVED if you think this is an enough information you need or please let me know otherwise.

    Best regards,

    Philip

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