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When winding the bobbin thread slipped off tension disk and wound around the bobbin shaft. When I removed the thread the bobbin will not fill with thread.

It appears the shaft dropped down and won't lock the bobbon

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Well, you COULD get this fixed -- or you could purchase an inexpensive bobbin winder and skip the whole issue. Does a better job, too.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Aug 19, 2008

SOURCE: Problem with winding thread onto

first you must make sure the winder shaft is turning by moving it to the right a little and see if you can turn it by hand.
If it is turning ok then there is a rubber ring on the other end of the winder shaft and it should come in contact with the drive which turnes it ,if it is worn it might need a new rubber.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Sep 22, 2008

SOURCE: Upper thread wraps around bobbin mechanism, while sewing

IT PROBABLY IS THREADED INCORRECTLY. GO SLOWLY BY THE DIAPHRAGM AND MAKE SURE IT IS THREADED CORRECTLY. ALSO MAKE SURE SPOOL PIN HOLDERS ARE IN PLACE THAT HELPS TO GUIDE THE THREAD CORRECTLY.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Nov 24, 2008

SOURCE: Singer 2010

If model 2010, the problem is a part metal- part plastic part attached to the bottom of the bobbin winding lever, the white tear-shaped thing with the arrow on it. If that will turn past the center of the bobbin it's broken inside. to try a do-it-yourself fix, turn upside down, remove 4 screws, including one by the plug (which must be pulled out for safety anyway) remove bottom case. looking at left end of the works, move the bobbin lever and you'll see the broken part move. The plastic part should be broken about half-way down. You can see how the part should push the white plastic bobbin winding shaft up and down when lever moved. the part can be removed by loosening the 2 tiny hexnuts holding it on the metal shaft. you'll need the smallest size allen (hex) wrench there is. NOTE where the part is at bottom of the metal shaft for when you put have to put it back on. be careful to hold the bobbin winding shaft itself in place, but it's easy to see how it goes back in if it pops out. if the break is clean (like my wife's that I just fixed this way yesterday!) you can put a drop or 2 of good crazy glue in the break, making sure lined up on the sides, then clamp in a vise (or hold firmly together with pliers) for at least 10 mins, longer better. wait at least an hour before putting back. putting back on is a little tricky but you move the bobbin lever to left (open) position, make sure it's just on the end of the shaft (shaft barely protruding) and see where the part isn't pushing the bobbin winding shaft. re-tighten with hex wrench then see if the repaired part now pushes the bobbin winding shaft up and down when you move the lever back and forth. Turn back over and move the lever without a bobbin spool- you should see shaft move up in the middle of bobbin case where it will engage the bottom of the bobbin spool where the x is.
Now if part can't be fixed it is available from auth Singer service center in you state but runs $40 or so. they'll try to tell you they have to install it because of special anti-static gloves that wont fry your motherboard on the machine's computer, but the center in Michigan finally said they would mail it to me. hope this helps! funny I just saw this after fixing our machine which hadn't been used for a long time until I decided I might as well look inside if I was going to have to buy her a new machine!!!

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Feb 21, 2009

SOURCE: Singer CG 550 Top thread keeps wraping around the bobbin and jam

Have you checked the top thread is correctly placed in the spring of the bobbin case?

radcal

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  • Posted on Feb 16, 2010

SOURCE: Singer Sewing Machine model 9224. Bobbin thread

If you turn the handwheel, can you see a metal ring rotating around the outer edge of the bobbin case? If not rotating, broken gear or timing belt off.
If that ring is turning, remove the needle plate and bobbin case. As this ring now rotates, you will a finger on the ring that will pass behind the needle from right to left and it should catch the thread from the eye of the needle. If this finger, the "hook" passes above the eye, you have a timing problem.

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Code 88 starts flashing as well as all the stitching lights on the panel when I try to thread the bobbin. I can sew, that is NOT the problem, threading the bobbin is. What is Code 88? I am not interested...

Turn your machine off and leave it off. Remove all bobbins - in the machine & from the pin. Remove all thread - from threaded machine and bobbin thread path. Clip the machine thread at the spool and pull the needle thread towards yourself. Clip bobbin thread at spool and close to bobbin, then pull towards you through thread guides. This keeps the tension where it belongs. Move the bobbin winding shaft from normal sewing back to winding bobbin a couple times. It should click in place when moved to the winding position. Check to see if there is any thread that has slipped under the bottom of the bobbin and wound itself around & under the bottom of the shaft. Carefully unwind to clear. If the shaft does not easily move back to the sewing position it is probably stuck in the winding position. Don't force it, but try to get it out of the winding position. Leave it to the left in the normal sewing position (unclicked). Check to see if there is any thread caught anywhere along the path from spool to the winding pin. Pay close attention to the first thread guide and the two discs the thread slips between that control tension. Hand wind the wheel on the right towards you to raise and lower the needle a couple of times. Stop with needle in highest position. Do NOT wind hand wheel backwards (away from you). Make sure the bobbin pin is not in the winding position. Now turn on your machine. Needle should jump to default position. Move the stitch length and stitch width guides to the far right, then far left, to attain the green lights. Press the reverse stitch button to raise lower and raise the needle. It will stop in the highest position. If you still have the error code - make sure the bobbin winding pin is NOT in the winding position. Remove the needle. Lower the presser foot and run the machine without any thread a bit. If the needle bar does not go up and down most likely the bobbin pin is stuck in the winding position. If the code has cleared use your manual to carefully wind a new bobbin. Make sure you are using a 15J bobbin which this machine requires. It will not work with just any bobbin. Next, raise the presser foot then carefully thread the machine. If you don't have a manual you can download one from the Singer website. You might consider cleaning the entire machine paying special attention to the hook area and feed dogs while the power is off. If you find a lot of lint do this more frequently to prevent buildup. Take special care when replacing the bobbin care. Hope this helps. If not call Singer. It may take some time but you should be able to reach someone to help you troubleshoot. If this is an older machine I recommend taking it for repair yourself instead of sending to Singer

reference: http://www.amazon.com/Singer-7466-Electronic-Sewing-Machine/forum/Fx3BSOY0VA78VQ4/-/1?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B000B91B3K
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Problems winding the bobbin. Thread is winding around the shaft under the bobbin. manual does not state whether to thread needle, whether the foot is up or down.

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Firstly remove the bobbin and case and give the whole area around the bobbin a good brush out, removing all lint and fibres from the area completely, don't blow it inside the machine deeper. Then if it has marked oiling points, give them a drop of clear quality sewing machine oil.

Now, check that the bobbin thread is fully into tension spring and that the bobbin is in and rotating the right way in the case. Also check the way the thread is wound onto the bobbin, many users have never been shown the right way to wind and just go flat out. You need the bobbin to be wound smoothly and evenly right across the middle top and bottom and you don't want the thread to be wound on with varying tensions on it or it relaxes unevenly in the seam causing puckers.

See my tip on bobbin winding here: http://www.fixya.com/support/r10598580-winding_bobbin_correctly

Then check top tension is set at the mid range number, usually 4 or 5 and that it is also fully seated into the tension discs. Always thread with the pressure foot raised so the discs are open for the thread to seat in.

Change the needle, and check stitch length is appropriate for the weight of fabric being sewn, usually 2.5 length is fine.

Now test sew again and hopefully the stitching is now more even.
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Bernina 135 bobbin winds unevenly

If you are finding that the bobbin is winding with more thread towards one edge of the bobbin than the other, the bobbin winder motor needs to be adjusted so that the angle of the winder shaft is properly aligned with the tension disc next to the head cover. Unfortunately, unlike many of the other models, you have to remove the covers on the Activa range to get at the adjuster. There is a spring-tensioned screw just to the left of the bobbin winder motor that adjusts the angle of the motor and therefore how it loads the bobbin. If the winder is loading the bobbin with most of the thread towards the bottom edge, the screw should be turned clockwise and if most towards the top, it should be turned anticlockise. Make adjustments until the thread is winding evenly or, at least, towards the centre of the bobbin.

If you are finding that your bobbin is being loaded somewhat randomly, make sure you are using the vertical spool holder to hold the spool and that you've got a foam pad under the thread spool. Route the thread through the thread guide before winding around the tension disc in the correct direction (see the arrow on the case) and ensure that the spool and thread do not vibrate unduly when the bobbin is being wound. If you let the spool vibrate whilst the bobbin is loading, it may result in varying tension on the thread and uneven winding onto the bobbin.
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How to fill a bobbin on Virtuosa 150

Put the thread spool on the vertical spool holder with a sponge pad underneath. Wind the thread off the spool and through the small wire thread guide next to the spool holder. Take the thread across the top of the sewing arm to the tension unit just next to the gap in the case through which the thread is normally threaded - the tension unit looks like the top of a shiny screw without the slots in it. Wind the thread in a clockwise direction around the tension unit once and pull the thread with a bit of tension until it slips into the sprung gap around the underside of the shiny part. Slip the end of the thread through one of the holes in the bobbin and, preferably, wind a few turns on, then push the bobbin onto the bobbin winder shaft at the right-hand end of the top of the machine. Turn the bobbin clockwise by hand a few more times to make sure the thread is 'locked' onto the bobbin and then just push the lever adjacent to the bobbin winder to the left. To wind the bobbin, you then press the foot controller and either stop when you've got enough thread on the bobbin or let it stop automatically when full. Make sure you dont go so fast that the spool rattles-around on the spool holder otherwise this could spoil the way the bobbin gets filled.
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The tension on the bobbin is giving big loops and then breaking

This could be one of the following:
  • wrong bobbin for the machine
  • bobbin loaded the wrong way - must rotate anticlockwise when you pull the thread
  • thread not into the tension spring/device on the bobbin holder correctly
  • bobbin wound badly, uneven tension, loose or uneven across the bobbin
  • poor quality or old dry brittle thread could cause the breaking (but the loops is definitely tension issues).
This is a top loading bobbin machine machine and you can download a manual from
http://www.singerco.com/accessories/manuals.html

Here is the threading diagram from the manual.

tally_girl_21.jpg It is important to click the thread down into the tension spring on all top loading bobbin machines and then pull gently on the thread to check that it is under tension, you should feel firm resistance when you pull the thread. If not, then take it out, and try again.

Other thing to look at is how the bobbin is wound. It is necessary to wind a bobbin smoothly and with some tension on the spool as the thread comes off it. Best analogy is the garden hose reel. If you wind it up and don't control where the hose goes onto the reel it will all lump up in the middle, and you won't get all the hose onto it. And then when you go to pull the hose out, it will jam and be difficult to pull. Same with bobbin thread. You want a nice neat even fill across the whole width of the bobbin, not just the middle. To achieve this make sure you use the bobbin winder tension disc when winding. Also use the spool cap on top of the thread spool to stop it from bouncing around as it unwinds - the thread will then wind off around the spool cap and this keeps it running smoothly and not twisting and jerking. If you don't have a spool cap then put the curved handle of a pair of scissors on top of the thread spool to tension it while you wind the bobbin. Also watch the bobbin as it winds, give the thread a nudge with your finger to control the fill onto the bobbin so it winds top, bottom and middle of the bobbin evenly.

I would suggest the following:
clean out the race following the manual directions to remove the bobbin holder, clean in this area, replace it. Wind a fresh bobbin and then load it into the machine, following the manual instructions carefully. Also thread the top of the machine following the manual, put in a new sharp needle from the pack, turn the top tension dial to a medium number (often 5 if dial goes from zero to 10).

Now test sew again. Look at the seam, if you have loops on the bottom of the fabric, underside, then the top thread tension is too loose or not in the top tension discs fully. Generally you should not need to adjust the tension on the bobbin thread for these machines.


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Bobin jumps when sewing

Could be in around the wrong way, poorly wound or not under tension correctly. Or even the wrong bobbin for this machine.

I suggest that you check that the bobbin is correct, ie do you have several that came with the machine and are they all the same in shape and diameter? Consult the manual if you have one.

Nextly, wind a fresh bobbin taking the thread from the spool through the tensioner (if your machine has one on the top) and then onto the bobbin. Keep a little tension on the thread spool with the handle of your scissors to ensure that the bobbin winds smoothly and evenly. Use your finger tip to nudge the thread to fill all areas of the bobbin. You want a neat smooth wind so the thread will then flow smoothly off the bobbin when it is in the machine making stitches.

Now, load the bobbin into the bobbin holder or bobbin case as per your manual, ensuring the thread is correctly into the tension spring and bobbin is rotating the right way around.

Now thread up and test sew again.
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I need to know how to thread a bobbin?

TRY THIS, itma not be your model, but should help Title:
How do I wind the bobbin? windingbobbin_02.jpg
ac093.jpg Pre-tension disk ac094.jpg Bobbin winder shaft ac095.jpg Bobbin

1. Pull up the spool pin as far as possible, and then put a spool of thread on this pin. windingbobbin_a0991.jpg
2. Pass the thread around the pre-tension disk. Make sure that the thread passes under the pre- tension disk.
windingbobbin_a0992.jpg ac098.jpg Pre-tension disk c_b4.jpg Pulling it in as far as possible

Caution If the spool of thread is not in the right place, the thread may tangle on the spool pin.

3. Pass the end of the thread through the hole on the bobbin from the inside of the bobbin. windingbobbin_a0993.jpg
4. Put the bobbin onto the bobbin winder shaft and slide the bobbin winder shaft to the right. windingbobbin_a0994.jpg
5. Turn the bobbin clockwise, by hand, until the spring on the shaft slides into the groove of the bobbin. windingbobbin_a0995.jpg ac099.jpg Spring on the shaft ac0991.jpg Groove of the bobbin

6. Turn on the sewing machine. windingbobbin_a0996.jpg
7. While holding the end of the thread, gently press the foot controller or press start/ stop button (for models equipped with the start/stop button) to wind the thread around the bobbin a few times. Then stop the machine. windingbobbin_a0997.jpg
Note
  • If the sewing machine is to be operated using the foot controller, connect the foot controller before turning on the machine.
  • When the foot controller is plugged in, the start/stop button cannot be used to start sewing (only for models equipped with the start/stop button).

8. Trim the excess thread above the bobbin. windingbobbin_a0998.jpg
Caution Make sure you follow the instructions carefully.
If you do not cut the thread completely, and the bobbin is wound, when the thread runs low it may tangle around the bobbin and cause the needle to break.

9. Slide the sewing speed controller to the right (to set the speed to fast).
(For models equipped with the sewing speed controller.) windingbobbin_a0999.jpg ac0992.jpg Sewing speed controller
10. Press the foot controller or press start/stop button (for models equipped with the start/stop button) to start. windingbobbin_a18.jpg
11. When the bobbin seems full and begins spinning slowly, take your foot off the foot controller or press start/stop button (for models equipped with the start/stop button). windingbobbin_a19.jpg
12. Cut the thread, slide the bobbin winder shaft to the left and remove the bobbin. windingbobbin_a191.jpg
13. Slide the sewing speed controller back to its original position (for models equipped with the sewing speed controller). windingbobbin_a192.jpg


Caution Not winding the bobbin properly may cause the thread tension to loosen, and may break the needle.
woundbobbin3.jpg ac0993.jpg Wound evenly ac0994.jpg Wound poorly


Note
  • When the sewing machine is started or the handwheel is turned after winding the thread around the bobbin, the machine will make a clicking sound; this is not a malfunction.
  • The needle bar does not move when you slide the bobbin winding shaft to the right.
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4d embroidery machine is pulling bobbin thread to front

Not sure what a 4D machine is, but guessing you have a Designer of some kind. Have you put in a new bobbin since you sewed out the successful design? Did you wind it yourself or is it a pre-wound? If wound yourself, maybe the tension on the bobbinfill was not correct and the bobbin is not wound properly as a result. Wind a new bobbin - take the machine speed down three clicks and wind the bobbinfill around the round metal tension bit in a figure-of-eight instead of around once only (i.e. go under the disc, around to the left then over the top then across to the bobbin filling mechanism).
Floss out the bobbin tension slot with a piece of strong sewing thread to be sure there is no fluff in there, and when you re-load the bobbin be sure to listen for the "click" as the thread goes into the tension slot.
Sometimes designs are badly digitised and they will not sew out nicely. If you are sure your fabric is correctly hooped, the bobbin is correctly wound and securely in the bobbin case, try loosening the upper thread tension by two clicks and see if that helps the problem to go away. (SET menu, numbers and plus and minus signs under the icon that looks like a DNA thread - minus to decrease tension.)
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Sewing machine has bobbin thread would around winding shaft

If the bobbin is on correctly try crossing the thread before going through the tensioner which should solve this problem and also a more evenly wound bobbin.
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