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VIJAY PRIYOLKAR Posted on Aug 03, 2015
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When I changed Pentair Whiperflo motor with new Impeller & Diffuser seals the new motor shaft does not turn. Diffuser is pressing against Impellor not allowing it to rotate. What is wrong ?

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Take the Diffuser off and run it if the impeller turns then might be tightening the Diffuser too much, it just needs to not move, doesnt really need a super waterproof seal or anything like that. If it still doesnt turn with the Diffuser off it might have locked up when replacing the Impeller, you can try to turn the impeller manually or remove the cover plate on the back of the moter and turn the shaft manually back there. OOoorr you broke it

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