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Anonymous Posted on Oct 09, 2014

My boiler has a squeeling sound during the warmu up. I think it is coming from the expansion tank?

THIS TANK COMES FROM THE FACTORY WITH A PRECHARGE OF 12 PSI.What pressure should it be if the boiler water pressure is 14 psi cold.

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The squealing sound generally comes from a circulator pump, if it has a drive coupling between motor and impeller housing there is an oil cup/or oil hole, add oil until it is full! If it is a cartridge style circulator you may have to replace it.

Sometimes air in a system will cause this squeal noise as well. Purging the air out of system may be required. If you need to know how to purge a system there is a good pdf file at this link for $8.95 The Basics of Purging Air
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The Expansion tank is factory set to 12 psi and the only way to tell if it remains with 12 psi is to drop the system pressure to zero and check the tank with a pressure gauge. If water comes out the air valvestem when you apply the pressure gauge, the tank is bad, replace it! If there is less then 12 psi on the tank add air to 12 psi and open water valves back up to normal operating pressure. Usually the feed valve will automatically stop at the preset setting.If the boiler is leaking water out any relieve valve drains, the feed valve, relief valve and or expansion tank may need to be replaced.

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  • Posted on Nov 12, 2009

SOURCE: I have an Amtrol 109 tank on my boiler mounted

If you are losing boiler pressure, it is probably not the expansion tank. Most of the time when these go bad they fill with water and cause a increase in boiler pressure, especially when the boiler is running. If you put a tire gauge on the end of the tank it should read between 10 and 15 psi. If this is the case then the expansion tank is fine. If the tank is fine then you may have a leak somewhere in the system. The perculating that you refer to could also be from the boiler being under filled. Make sure all zones are purged of air and the boiler pressure reads around 12 psi on the gauge. Hope this helps

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  • Posted on Mar 29, 2010

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No, if water comes from the air port the bladder in the tank is ruptured and the tank should be replaced.

jimmy

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  • Posted on Mar 29, 2010

SOURCE: Lots of water on basement floor at pressure tank.

sounds like the bladder tank at the well is ruptured this will cause pressure surge, and pump short cycling, and needs to be replaced asap.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Oct 21, 2010

SOURCE: I am loosing water pressure in my shower so I

you are correct....the rubber bladder inside the tank has leaked by and filled the expansion tank. it will need to be replaced and you also may find boiler or water heater relief valves may blow off until its replaced

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