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I fixed my Singer 4423 Heavy Duty timing, and the hook is catching thread without bobbin case in, but when I put bobbin case and bobbin in machine it doesn't catch bobbin thread. Is this still timing

Removed bottom of machine and fixed timing by adjusting wheel. when I spin needle when empty, the hook catches thread however it doesn't catch when bobbin case is input into machine. Bobbin case does seem loose, but cannot get it any tighter.

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  • Posted on Jul 02, 2015
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radcal

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  • Posted on Nov 14, 2007

SOURCE: Bottom thread will not catch

Unplug the machine and remove the needle plate so that the bobbin case if fully exposed. Lift out the bobbin case and the cup that it sets in will be visible. Locate the "hook" on this cup. It is a finger with a sharp point at the upper edge of the cup. The hook is what grabs the thread from the needle while sewing.

  • Thread the needle.
  • Turn the handwheel by hand.
  • Watch the hook as it approaches the needle from right to left.
If the hook passes by the needle AFTER the eye of the needle is above it, you timing has slipped and the machine must be taken in for repair.
If the hook catches the thread from the needle, put everything back together and try threading again.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Nov 07, 2008

SOURCE: bobbin thread not catching

Whenever you see loops on the underside of the fabric something is snagging the thread. the biggest culprit is burrs on the hook. the hook is what goes round and around the bobbin. The reason for burrs on the tip of the hook areseveral

ONE ...is by helping the fabric through as the machine is doing the sewing which directs the needle too close to the hook thus scarring the smooth surface of the hook and potentially breaking it off and the needle too. You must allow the machine do it on its own and only guide the material.

TWO...Sometimes if you are sewing s-t-r-e-t-c-h-y double knit material the material calls for a ball point needle. I have gotten good results with the Singer brand YELLOW BAND needle.

Three ... The hook could have gotten out of timing. What this means is that the hook is not meeting the needle on the top edge of the eye of the needle. You yourself can check this out by removing the bobbin (or shuttle, cassette). Install the needle flat side to flat side of the mounting rod and all the way up. By slowly turning the handwheel on the right slowly and watching that the eye of the needle is just below the hook on the upward swing of the needle and that they both meet dead center. This when you need to take it in to a repairman. FrankIy I don't like to advise this because of unscruppulous practices. My boss used to call me a virgin Mary because I wouldn't ripp-off the customers. Anyway at this time you can also check the condition of the hook carefully looking for nicks and scratches on or around the tip of the hook. If there is damage present you can file this down with a very fine emory board or by using a strip of 400 to 600 grit sandpaper as if your were buffing a shoe. If the hook is removeable by unsnapping the snaps on either side its easier to buff. Anything courser may contibute to the problem. If the paper won't remove the damage you may need a whole new hook. If its not removeable you will have to take it in to have it installed.They have to time it properly.

Four...The two disk that you mentioned also has a spring. That sping is there to pull up those loops. If the disks are full of lint from the thread going through. the clups of lint won't allow the discs to apply tension on the thread and thereby having tightened the tension so much that that spring is not working properly.You can clean the discs by raising the foot which opens the discs. With a long narrow pick pull out all that lint without scatching the discs. Check closely that the the thread goes across the top of the machine down through the discs pull up snug so the spring engages,through the take up arm,in the two thead guides, then into the needle front to back or right to left, if it is a side loading bobbin. Now the tension will work properly!

TESTING : Move the TENSION dial to mid point of the dial usually 5. This is your starting point.
With two layers of fabric ( not stretchy) and with a regular needle, set stitch length at about 12 per inch on the dial. Now sew about six inches. Raise the fabric and look at the results. Do minor adjustments necessary on your tension dial up 6...7.. if loose on the bottom 4...3..2 if loose on top.
If you did all the steps above those are the steps a repairman performs and charges $75 except me I used to charge $10 .

Brother machines are good quality it is those hidden gremlins that make a fun hobby frustrating when you don't have someone to turn to without having to shell out cash! Its been a pleasure!

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silly01

  • 18 Answers
  • Posted on Aug 16, 2009

SOURCE: Singer 457 Zig Zag Sewing Machine not catching bobbin thread.

There are manuals avilable online to purchase for the singer machines, SOrry I was not able to locate a site that has them for free.
.... http://sewingonline.co.uk/singer-manuals.html

cindy

  • 15 Answers
  • Posted on Feb 02, 2014

SOURCE: Can not lower the needle to pick up bobbin thread on my Singer Stylist 7358 machine

Where the bobin is at re check the exterior of the part that spins you may have a thread stuck and keeping it in place use a flash light then replace bobbin as you depress the power controller asist the wheel this should free up the bobbin area and should run

daytoncomput

Dayton Computer

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  • Posted on Mar 01, 2014

SOURCE: Singer 3321 Talent Sewing Machine jammed after one turn forwards or backwards, even when thread and needle removed it won't work

This sounds more like the motor is bound up. The other solutions are, check for thread wrapped around moving parts, any belts that may have become displaced.

Testimonial: "Thank you I took the casing off and although I could not see any obvious threads I cleared out and blew into machine and put it back together and hey presto I am happy it worked.. So I reckon you are right with something bunging up the motor. Whatever it was I loosened it. Thanks"

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I have a singer heavy duty 4423 I am sewing a curtain out of a sheet every time I try to reverse sew my machine jams up but straight sewing seems to be ok

If your Singer Heavy Duty 4423 is jamming when you try to sew in reverse, it may be due to a few issues:
  1. Thread tension: Make sure your thread tension is not too tight, which can cause the thread to bunch up and jam the machine. Try loosening the tension slightly.
  2. Needle: Make sure you are using the correct needle for the fabric you are sewing. A dull or damaged needle can cause the machine to jam.
  3. Bobbin: Check your bobbin to make sure it is threaded correctly and is not damaged.
  4. Machine maintenance: It's important to keep your machine clean and well-oiled. A buildup of lint or dirt can cause the machine to jam.
  5. Sewing speed: Slow down when sewing in reverse. Sometimes going too fast in reverse can cause the machine to jam.
If none of these solutions work, it may be a mechanical issue with the machine and it's best to take it to a professional for repair
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The bobbin thread will not pick up. How do I fix it?

First, install a brand new needle and verify that it is facing the correct way and it is the proper needle for your machine.

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If it still will not pick up the bobbin thread, open the bobbin area of the machine and watch the needle action as you hand-turn the handwheel. You may see why it is not picking up the thread because the needle could be arriving too soon or too late to intercept the bobbin thread. If this is happening, the needle/hook is out of time. Take it for service.

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Why is the bobbin case on a Singer 4423.CL - Heavy Duty 4423 not working right?

If you've cleaned and oiled it, change the needle to see if it is catching in the wrong place and re-thread, of course. If none of that works, it's probably the timing ... find a good repair guy.
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My Singer Heavy Duty 4423 has a problem getting the bobbin thread to come up

First make sure the needle is the correct size and fully inserted into the machine. Test

Then if that doesn't solve the problem check the timing.

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How to repair a sticky/jammed singer heavy duty 4423

Put a felt spool pin holder (an extra one comes with machine and it's either red or white felt with a circle cut out of it in the center)...remove bobbin, set felt circle in bobbin case to keep bobbin from wiggling. The back and forth motion is knocking the thread out causing it to lay flat against top of the bobbin when you start machine, but felt puts bobbin in correct position! Make sure thread falls into tension slots and carefully pull thread back to left of silver piece (stitch finger). Pull up your bobbin thread. Put in new needle since "bird nesting" or jam may have bent the one previously used. Now it should purr like a kitten...smooth sailing! This is how I fixed my Singer Heavy Duty 4423 when I realized the problem is that the bobbin case is a bit wide and felt takes up slack, raising bobbin also to keep bobbin thread moving smoothly through so it doesn't jump out of tension and rest on top of bobbin!!! Works now!
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Hello. I own a Singer 4423 Heavy Duty sewing machine. It has been working fine overall, but today it is giving me problems with jamming. At first it jammed underneath the plate and created a huge ball of...

Make sure thread is not laying across the bobbin when you look down into the plastic slider that covers the top loading bobbin case. The bobbin on mine I observed was loose in the case so that as the machine ran, eventually the bobbin thread would jump out of the stitch finger (the silver piece to the far left of the bobbin case, past the tension slots). I solved this problem and so can you! Take the extra felt spool pin felt in your accessories kit that came with the machine, remove bobbin from case and drop this small felt circle into the bobbin case. Replace bobbin. On the 4423, the bobbin thread goes counter-clockwise and drops into the tension discs, and goes all the back until it falls into the space left of the silver stitch finger. Make sure take up level raised all the way up! Then pull the needle thread toward you until bobbin thread comes all the way up. If you start sewing and you actually can SEE the bobbin thread laying across the bobbin, STOP and tethered because that would mean your thread did not slide all the back behind the silver stitch finger--however, I assure you, if you go one step at a time, you did it correctly! You will be smiling in no time! Why? The felt helps to make the bobbin rest in the correct position to keep it from jumping out of the groove. I hope this helps you.
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