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How do you set the swr on 102' whip antenna - Radio Communications

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You shouldn't have to but its still good to check.A 102" whip is an antenna thats almost always perfectly matched because it is almost like a 5/8 wave antenna.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jan 23, 2008

SOURCE: SWR calibration waaay off the chart

You are using an inline swr meter to set your swr right, not looking at the meter on the radio? Here is the process to set swr on an antenna:

You must have an inline swr meter, which can be purchased online or from a truck stop. The ones at truck stops are cheap ones, but will do the trick for the most part.

You connect your antenna 18ft coax to the antenna plug of the swr meter, and a jumper coax (any length) to the transmitter plug of the swr meter and then to the radio.

Close all doors and make sure no one is messing around with the vehicle or antenna. You must be set up as you would normally be transmitting.

Now set your cb radio to channel 40 and your swr meter to fwd. Key up your microphone1.gif and at the same time turn the set knob on the swr meter until the needle is at the line that reads set. Unkey your mic and set the the swr meter to ref. Key up again and note what your reading is. Now leave the swr meter in ref and turn the cb to channel 1. Key up and take your reading. If the reading on ch 1 is higher than ch 40 you must raise the stinger on your antenna. If ch 1 is lower than 40, you lower your stinger. You are trying to get lower than a reading of 3 and as close to 1.5 as possible. If you lower your stinger as far into the antenna as it will go and you need it shorter, you cut the bottom of your stinger no more than 1/2" at a time, and recheck your swr reading after each cut.

Once you have gotten the best reading you can, connect your antenna directly back to the radio.

The setting of your swrs is to make your antenna as efficient as possible, by trying to get it as close as you can to a 50ohm impedance. THE ONLY PART OF YOUR SYSTEM THAT CAN CHANGE YOUR SWR IS YOUR ANTENNA, not your coax and not your radio. Your radio and coax can give you false readings, but only the antenna can actually change the swr.

On the swr meter, the fwd/ref switch stands for forward (power that is being transmitted out) and reflected (power that is reflected back into the radio.

Just for information sake, the swr cal switch on your radio is used to set the meter to reflect the swr that your antenna is set at. The meter on your radio is like a dummy light on your car. ONCE AGAIN, YOU CAN NOT SET YOUR SWR ON YOUR RADIO, only the antenna.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 12, 2009

SOURCE: I installed a browning br-51 cb antenna on my cb radio.

You need to shorten the antenna,adjust the whip all the way down and see what you have and then cut off 1/4" at a time remember this low on 1 high on 40 it needs to be lengthened high on 1 low on 40 it needs to be shortened . I hope this helps and good luck.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 17, 2009

SOURCE: I am getting high swr readings on my base station

what i would do is go and buy a real cb antenna mount like a mirror mount and get a peice of sheet metal and screw the mount to the metal and screw that to the roof or side of the house and you should buy a spring that will also help with the swr and if you by the mount you can just screw on a standard pl259 connector

anymhz

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  • Posted on Dec 04, 2009

SOURCE: my cobra 29 i can not set the swr on the antenna,new swr meter

then there may be prob with antenna system or radio has too low of dead key to operate the meter.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 06, 2010

SOURCE: how to set SWR readings to my K40 Antenna without

If you have a cobra 29 then you have a meter. There is no way to Tune an antenna without a meter. You need a device that can read the reflect, or Standing Wave Ratio.That is a standing wave of RF energy that instead of leaving the antenna, is going back down the feed line to the radio and in time hurting the radio.

If you have a cobra 29 LTD, it has a build in SWR meter. It is not as accurate as an in line meter, but it will get it close enough not to hurt the radio. Here is how to do it.

Turn on the radio, with the antenna hooked up. Never key with out an antenna hooked up.

Set the switch all the way to the left(S/RF SWR CAL) to CAL. this stands for calibrate.

You will notice there is a knob right next to the channel selector knob marked SWR CAL as well. Start with the knob turned all the way to the left.

Put the radio on Channel 20. This is just about the middle of the band.

Key the radio and hold it. While holding the key on the mic, turn the SWR CAL knob up until the needle on the meter hits the mark "CAL". there is a triangle, and a gap in the line. The needle needs to be at the point of the triangle in the gap.

NOW, while still holding the mic key, flip the switch from CAL to SWR. You should see the needle immediately swing back. What ever the needle is on at this point is your SWR reading. use the set of numbers on the top of the meter, that's for SWR measurement.

If the needle does not swing back, and is in the rad, the antenna is WAY off. There are some reference points on the scale. The first gap in the line is 1.5 SWR. if the needle is there or less that is fine. then you have 2 and 3. 2 is not so great, but not extremely bad, but you should try to get it lower. 3 is really bad. Anything past 3 is considered infinity, and is really really bad.

If its high, then your antenna is either too long or too short. So how do you know which?

Here is how.

Turn to channel one and repeat the SWR process from above. Make note of the reading.

Then turn it to channel 40. Repeat the process again and take note of the reading.

Now, if the SWR is higher on channel 40 then 1, then your antenna is too long and you must shorten it. If the reading is higher on 1 then 40, then your antenna is too short, and you must lengthen it.

Make adjustments in length about an 1/8th inch at a time until you have either the same reading on 1 and 40 or real close, and or the reading on channel 20 is really low.

If you get it so that the reading on 1 and 40 are the same, then the SWR reading on 20 will most likely be almost nothing, unless there is either something wrong with the antenna, coax, or its just a crappy antenna.

K40 should be able to get a nice low SWR.

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first of you have to set the SWR on the radio first . then some liniers require you to run low wattage and others high wattage . the SWR is what you have to control by keeping it low . You must take into consideration the length of the coax plus any jumpers you have . You say you have 18 ft of coax plus a 3 ft. jumper ,thats 21 ft..You should keep that jumper as short as possible ,like 12" . plus you should make sure the antenna is grounded good , like to a good spot under the vehicle . 102 " whips are supposed to be almost perfectly tuned for a good match .
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Antennas for all radios need to have the SWR set, STANDING WAVE RATIO. Which means the antenna needs to be the correct length for it to work properly. Most people stick them on and start talking.. This is not good pratice to do. The lower the frequency the longer the antenna needs to be. The higher the frequency the shorter it needs to be. ie. 80m ham antenna needs to be around 67 ft long. and a wifi antenna needs to be just less than an inch. soo, Your CB is on 26.965ch1-27.405ch40 so ch1 is lower freq than ch 40.
obtain swr meter. inline with the radio - meter - antenna..
check swr first on ch1. then check 40 if there both good try to even out both so that there around 2.0 or less ideal is 1.1 to 1 or 1.5 to 1....
Now if ch1 is higher than ch40 = need to raise the antenna make it longer.
If ch40 is higher than ch1 = need to shorten the antenna.
some antennas have an adjustable whip. ie wilson, k40, predator10k, etc.
just adjust the whip to obtain low swr ...
some other antennas don't have whips to adjust. like Francis and OEM antennas on most trucks from the factory. these either need cutting like francis. or the oem style has a cap and wire wound under it. trim little bit at a time.1/8inch or less. if you never set swr before always try to find a good HAM operator to help you. or a decent cb shop. MOST will not charge you to do them. and Good Amateur radio operators and Good CB Shops will have an Antenna Analyzer made by MFJ.. This is what we Use here AnyMHz.com at our shop.There more accurate then a analog meter alone. And it will not interfere will people on the air like a swr meter.
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