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gary horsman Posted on Feb 05, 2014

Overflow tube have replaced fill valve and flapper. done dye test and no water from tank to bowl. fill valve will not shut off no matter how it's adjusted. tried two of them. no water from tank to toilet, not overflowing overflow valve but leaking out somewhere??? and tank doesn't empty over night when water shut off. what...is....happening?

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If you manually pull up on the float of the fill valve will it then shut off? If it does, most likely your water pressure is too high, should be around 60 psi. More then 80 and it won't shut off. You may need to add a restrictor to the fill valve. Most fluid-master units come with one already installed, you could try one of them.

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The amount of water in any toilet bowl is determined by its construction and no tank adjustment will ever change that. American Standard has a history of having small water surface areas in their low or ultra low flush toilets. Take a large container of water and pour directly into the bowl. If the ending level remains the same, then that is the manufactured level for your toilet.

Not all tanks completely discharge all of the water when flushed. Measure 1.5 gallons of water into a container. Turn off your water supply to the toilet then flush normally. Replace the water in the tank with your premeasured amount and observe this new water level. You might be surprised to find it is at the same level it always is. Since water weighs more than 8 pounds per gallon, one concept used in todays toilets is to have more than 1.5 gallons of water in the tank and use the extra weight push the water past the flapper at a faster rate while designing the flapper to drop after only 1.5 gallons have passed through.

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SOURCE: Eljer 0220 toilet leaks from tank to bowl, then

Hi,I have spent then past 13 years doing maintenance work and have seen this a lot. First the flapper could be warped even if new might try replacing.Second you will need to replace the the fill valve with new,I recomend Fluidmaster brand.

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