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I can not find the furnace in our home. Is it in the attic??? or crawl space??? i have a newer home in Phoenix

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It could be an air handler in the attic, do you have gas or ele. some are built into the water heater if it is gas, do you have base boards running around the bottom of your floor or air vents with am ac condesor outside if this is the case it could be either the crawl space or attic

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Another solution is electric water heater for very hot locations.
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