ANY obstruction will reduce range. This includes windows, cars, trees, buildings and of course, hills. They are strictly a line of sight radio. (If you could see the person with binoculars, it should work). Why they rate them by miles should be changed.
You'll never see 8-mile range unless it's mountaintop to mountaintop. If there's any terrain/trees/houses it's just not going to make it...
SOURCE: T 5000 (Talkabout Hand held Radios)
When you are using them in that type of area, there range is usually reduced to less than 1mile due to all the obstructions and other signals.
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