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What is tracking force and arm weight for Dual 505-2 deck?

Just bought Ortofon 20 stylus for 25year old Dual deck 505-2. What is the tracking force and weight adjustment I need to make to the arm and how do i do it, please?

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  • g_woodall Apr 20, 2009

    Thanks James. Have loaned a stylus balance and have a test record somewhere in the loft when I can brave going up there. Have just spent £100 on updated Ortofon stylus so need to get it right before I use it! If there's a range of tracking, at least I stand a chance of getting it right.

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Http://ortofon.de/ should give you the weight. It should also give you the range of tracking force. To get the right weight you can use a stylus balance. The electronic ones are expensive but good. The mechanical ones are not great but better than nothing. I set my turntable up with an Ortofon-branded mechanical balance for weight, and a test record for tracking force.

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