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I have a unit with a paragon 8145-20ex which is one month old and now the unit will not go into defrost. I thinking it is a problem with the defrost termination limit switch , not the timer. Is there an easy way to bypass that switch at the timer, perhaps by removing a wire? The X?

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SOURCE: install and use Paragon 8145 defrost timer

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Posted on Feb 26, 2010


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SOURCE: I have a paragon 8145-20 defrost timer. do you

Link below has wiring diagrams and wiring manuals for 240V 8145-20
http://waterheatertimer.org/Paragon-timers-and-manuals.html#defrost

I am not expert installing defrost timers.
According to information from Paragon, 8145 is for hot gas defrosting. 8140 series are time initiated, and pressure-or-temperature terminated.
Wiring diagram does not show compressor wired to timer.

The cycle works like this:
Timer is running but defrost is not switched ON.
Fan is ON.
Timer switches ON and activates defrost cycle.
Fan turns OFF. Hot gas valve turns ON for defrosting.
Cycle limit switch is temperature or pressure sensitive.
Cycle limit switch reaches trip point, timer switches OFF.
Hot gas valve turns OFF. Fan turns ON.
So fan is off during defrost cycle.
Hot gas valve turns ON when timer switches ON.
Timer is switched OFF by pressure-or-temperature limit switch.

Posted on Jan 20, 2011

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Anonymous

SOURCE: On a Paragon 8145-20 Defrost

Link below has 8145-20 wiring diagram:
http://waterheatertimer.org/Paragon-timers-and-manuals.html#defrost

Terminal N is 2nd wire needed to complete circuit.
In 240V 8145-20, there are two hot wires.
One Hot connects to terminal 1, with jumper to terminal 2.
Second Hot connects to terminal N, and this will power the clock motor and timer.
Terminal X is for temperature or pressure termination switch.

Defrost cycle works like this:
Timer is running but switched OFF.
Refrigeration fan is ON.
Timer switches ON, defrost cycle begins.
Refrigeration fan turns OFF.
Hot gas defrost turns ON.
When temperature-or-pressure limit switch reaches trip point, it switches timer OFF.
Refrigeration fan turns ON again.
Hot gas defrost turns OFF.

Posted on Jan 20, 2011

Anonymous

SOURCE: What purpose does the solenoid

The solenoid switches timer OFF when temperature-or-pressure limit switch reaches trip point.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Paragon-timers-and-manuals.html#defrost

Posted on Jan 20, 2011

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Is this a used timer?
8141-00 is 120 volt timer.
Is your 120 volt Hot wire on terminal 3 and Neutral on terminal X?
Test across 3 and x for 120 volt.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Paragon-timers-and-manuals.html#defrost

Don't buy used defrost timers... they always look good when you inspect, but never work when connected... that's why the timer was taken out of service and sold as used timer.
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The unit I'm working on has a 1 month old 8145-20ex and now the unit wont go into defrost - The compressor and the evap do not stop and the heaters do not energize. I'm thinking the defrost termination...


Copy following links:
http://waterheatertimer.org/Paragon-timers-and-manuals.html#8145
http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/How-to-test-Paragon-8145-timer.pdf
8145-20 is 240Volt defrost timer.
The defrost cycle will not begin. This implies that trippers are not in place, or trippers are worn out.... or limit switch is stuck ON or solenoid inside timer has gone bad.
Test across terminal N to X for 240Volt. Because voltage here will stop defrost cycle by activating solenoid inside timer, but continuous voltage will also stop next defrost cycle from beginning. Disconnect wire on terminal X and see if defrost cycle will begin at next tripper. If defrost begins, then limit switch is bad.
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8145-20 is 240V time-initiated, pressure or temperature terminated, with back-up time termination.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Paragon-timers-and-manuals.html#defrost

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