No video i had a major shutdown and when the ide cables are connected the harddrive wont spin, i managed to fix that problem but now theres no video, no post or anything, i tryed swapping video cars, clearing cmos and removing the battery, nothing worked

http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Product/Product_Detail.aspx?DetailID=106&MenuID=24&LanID=0

The ECS P6STP-FL motherboard uses IDE (PATA) harddrives, and optical drives. (CD/DVD drive)

IDE 1 is for the Harddrive.
IDE 1 is the 40-pin connector that is closest to the Ram Memory slots.
(Only 39-pin are used, however)

IDE 2 is used for the optical drive/s.
IDE 2 is next to IDE 1, and is further away from the Ram Memory slots.

The IDE connectors on the motherboard, have a Cut-Out on one side. A small square cut-out.
This is for the Locating Lug, on the flat IDE ribbon cable's, connector.
This makes sure that Pin 1 in the motherboard connector, is lined up with Wire 1 in the flat IDE ribbon cable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PATA-cable.jpg

The Locating Lug shown in this example, is two 'ridges' that are separated. Some designs just use one solid block.

IF, there is no Locating Lug;
Look for the faint Red stripe, on the side of the flat IDE ribbon cable,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nappe.svg

This stripe denotes the side, that number 1 wire is on.
Motherboard installed in computer case, the red stripe on that flat IDE ribbon cable, goes DOWN.
Down towards the Bottom of the motherboard.

When connecting to the Harddrive, and there is no Locating Lug on flat IDE ribbon cable, the Red stripe goes towards the power cable connection.

This applies to the optical drive (CD/DVD drive), and Floppy Disk Drive.
(34-pins for a Floppy Disk Drive. Cable is smaller in width)

Now, there is a different method of connecting a Harddrive, or optical drive, in relation to the flat IDE ribbon cable.

Depends on if the flat IDE ribbon cable is a 40-wire cable, or an 80-wire cable. You can use Cable Select setting on Harddrive/Optical drive; OR you can just connect the Harddrive, or Optical drive the correct way,

http://mikeshardware.com/howtos/howto_connect_ide_hd.html

Is the Harddrive recognized in BIOS Setup?
If your question relates that the Harddrive is not recognized, post back in a Comment.

Also post the manufacturer ID information off of the Harddrive's label.

Example for one type of Western Digital harddrive;

WD800AAJB

Western Digital 80 GB harddrive, and IDE (PATA)

With this information I can find the Cylinders, Heads, and Sectors.
Then guide you in entering it in BIOS Setup, IF needed.

"Press DEL to run Setup"
Press the Delete key to enter BIOS Setup.

AS SOON AS you press the Power On button, start tapping on the DELete key.
Tap in 2 second intervals.
You will hear beeps. These are Stuck Key Error Code beeps, and it is YOU that is doing it. Ignore the beeps.

Best method for entering BIO Setup.
(The window of opportunity for entering BIOS Setup, goes by F-A-S-T! The above method will get you in)

Your problem statement leaves a hole in the time/space continuum.
Does not exactly state what your problem is

For additional questions please post in a Comment.
Regards,
joecoolvette

Schematic

The eMachines T6532 uses an MSI MS-7207 motherboard.
Also known as the KN8GM2-L,

http://www.msi.com/product/mb/K8NGM2-FID--IL--L.html

[ http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130041 ]

The MSI motherboard has provisions for using, EITHER an
IDE (PATA) harddrive, or a SATA harddrive. (Or more than one)

Two different technologies.
I will explain both, using an IDE (PATA) harddrive,
OR;
Using a SATA harddrive;

On the MSI Support page above, click on the Download tab.
(Overview / Specifications / Download / Support / etc)

In the drop down list click on - Manual

Language > English > 7.1MB > E7207v2.0.zip
Click on the blue E7207v2.0.zip

On the next page click on the country name nearest yours.
A small window will come up -
Opening E7207v2.0.zip

Make SURE there is a Green dot in the small circle, to the left of Save File.
IF not; Left-click in the small circle to the left of Save File.
Now go below in the small window, and click on OK

A small download window will come up. Allow the file to download ALL the way, then DOUBLE-click right on it.

In the next small window go to the far left, and click on -
Extract all files.

At the bottom of the next 3 small windows, click on -
Next, Next, and Finish.

In the last small window DOUBLE-click right on the file name.
(7207v2.0(G52-M7207X5) next to the red Adobe PDF icon)

There is the Motherboard Manual

The MS-7207 has two IDE slots;

IDE 1, which is Yellow in color, and close to the outside edge of the motherboard.
Should have IDE 1 silkscreened on the motherboard, below it.

IDE 2 is Yellow in color also, and right next to IDE 1.

(IDE 2 is in-between IDE 1 and the Ram Memory slots.
The Purple, Slot 4, ram memory slot to be specific. {DIMM 4 )

IDE 1 is used for an IDE harddrive.
IDE 2 is used for an IDE optical drive.

TWO IDE harddrives can be put on a single flat ribbon IDE cable,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ATA_cables.jpg

NOTE that there are two styles of IDE flat ribbon cables;
40-wire cable,
OR;
80-wire cable.

BOTH have 40 socket holes in their connectors.
(ONLY 39 are used, so one hole May, or May Not be blocked off)

How to connect to a 40-wire IDE cable, or an 80-wire IDE cable,

http://www.mikeshardware.com/howtos/howto_connect_ide_hd.html

An IDE cable usually has a Locating Lug on it's connectors, in the middle of the connector; and on one side,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PATA-cable.jpg

Here you see the Locating Lug as being two separate 'ridges'.
Some styles the Locating Lug is single block.

The motherboard connector has a matching Cutout on one side.
The Locating Lug lines up with the cutout when installing the cable.

The Harddrive, and optical drive (CD/DVD drive), will have a cutout on their circuit boards.

There are 40-pins. (Only 39 are used if so)
One of them is the number 1 pin.
The IDE cables are plugged into the motherboard, with number 1 pin lining up with number 1 wire, in the IDE cable.

Same when the IDE cable is plugged into a Harddrive, or optical drive.

IF, there is no Locating Lug on the IDE cable;
Look for the faint RED stripe, on the side of the IDE cable.
Number 1 wire is on the same side, as the faint Red stripe.

When plugging into a motherboard, Number 1 pin is on the Bottom.
The faint red stripe on the cable, goes towards the BOTTOM of the motherboard.
(Motherboard installed in computer case)

When plugging into a Harddrive, or optical drive; the faint red stripe ALWAYS goes toward the power cable,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#peripheral

This shows you the Back of an IDE (PATA) harddrive, and the power cable used for it.
If -> No Locating Lug on IDE cable, the faint Red stripe goes towards the power cable.

This is a 4-pin standard Peripheral power cable.
Note when installing the rounded corners ALWAYS goes UP.

[This power cable is frequently, and erroneously; referred to as a 'Molex' power cable.
Molex was just the first manufacturer of the power cable CONNECTOR. Name STUCK.

Kind of like calling an adjustable open-end wrench, a 'Crescent wrench ]

A SATA power cable is used for a SATA harddrive, or SATA optical drive,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#sata

There is an L-shape in the SATA power cable's connector.
It matches an L-shape on the Harddrive, or optical drive.

Between a SATA power cable's connector, and a SATA data cable's connector; a SATA power cable connector is the LARGER of the two.
A SATA power cable has 15-contact pins.
A SATA data cable has 7-contact pins.

A SATA power cable's connector may have a LOCK on it.
Usually a Tab, or 'bulb' type affair.
It is pressed down with the thumb when installing, or removing the SATA power cable.

This is a general example of a SATA data cable,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SATA_Data_Cable.jpg

Now you can see the L-shaped opening a little better, that both the SATA data cable have, and the SATA power cable, has.

In the photo the SATA data cable's connector, is a 90 degree bent Elbow.
This style of connector is usually used on the Harddrive, or on the optical drive.

A Straight connector style is usually used for the Motherboard.
However, you can use a SATA data cable, that has a Straight connector on both ends.

Looking at your motherboard, installed in a computer case; there are 2 SATA connectors on the motherboard.

(CAN, be up to FOUR)

I see one motherboard reference where they (2) are Orange in color, (Newegg), and the motherboard manual shows them (2) to be Purple in color.

They are located towards the Bottom/Right corner of the motherboard.
Above the CMOS battery.

The SATA connector that is closest to the Outside edge of the motherboard, is SATA1 (SATA 1)

The Harddrive plugs into SATA 1.

An optical drive that is SATA, will plug into the SATA2 connector.
To the Left of the SATA1 connector.

KNOW THIS;

DOES NOT MATTER, which SATA connector you plug the Harddrive, or optical drive; into.

The beauty of SATA, is that you can plug the Harddrive or optical drive into ANY SATA connector, (On ANY motherboard), and BIOS will find those devices.

BIOS looks FIRST, to see which drive has the Operating System on it. (Windows)
THAT, is the Harddrive.

After finding the drive with the O/S on it, then BIOS will find all the other drives. Removable, or not.

So there you have it. A lot of reading.
You need a power cable, and a data cable to the Harddrive.
Same thing for the optical drive/s.

To have me clarify anything I have stated above, please post in a Comment.

For additional questions please post in a Comment.
Regards,
joecoolvette

Did you set the Master harddrive as master?

Or is your reference that you set the jumper cap, on the jumper pins; of both harddrives to Cable Select?

What are the manufacturer names, and model numbers of the two harddrives?

If you just see something like - WD2500JB, that will work.

How many wire is the Flat IDE ribbon cable?

There are 40 wire versions, and 80 wire versions.

Notice I stated - Wire.
They will both have 39 socket holes that are used.
(40 socket holes, with 1 blocked off)

80 wire IDE ribbon cable has Master harddrive in middle.
Slave harddrive at end of cable.
Little weird, huh?

40 wire IDE ribbon cable, has Master harddrive at end of cable, Slave in middle.


As for, "Computer will not see it."

Not trying to insult your intelligence. Am trying to see if we are both on the same page.............

1) You go to My Computer, and there is no drive letter assigned to that harddrive you just installed?

If it is there, you double-click on it to open that harddrive.

Please post back in a Comment.
Regards,
joecoolvette

The HP Pavilion 503n Desktop PC uses an IDE (PATA) harddrive,

HP Support > Pavilion 503n Desktop PC > Main Support page,

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/product?product=90381&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&lang=en&cc=us

In the list click on - Product information
Now click on - Product specifications
Lastly click on -
Motherboard Specifications, TriGem 2002052 (Glendale)

Takes you to this page,

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=bph07813&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&cc=us&dlc=en&lang=en&lc=en&product=90381

Scroll down, and look at the motherboard illustration, and photo.

Viewing the illustration look at the bottom right.
Primary IDE is where the harddrive plugs in.

In the motherboard photo this is the long Blue connector.

Now lets view an IDE 'ribbon' cable,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_ATA

Click on the photo to the upper right that shows the IDE cable, and it's blue connector. (The photo on the left of it shows the motherboard connector)

Here you see the rectangular connector, and a small square 'bump' on top.
The bump is a Locating Lug.

This lug is lined up with a cutout, in one side of the motherboard connector.
The other end of the cable's Locating Lug, lines up with a cutout on the back of the harddrive.

IF, there is no Locating Lug on the IDE cable connector;

There is a faint red stripe on one side of the cable. This is Always on the same side as number 1 wire, in the cable.

On the above link scroll the page down towards the middle, and the IDE cable illustration. (Under the heading - Parallel ATA Interface )

Number one contact pin on the harddrive, is ALWAYS towards the power connection, on the harddrive.

Example,

http://wdc.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/463/c/123/session/L3RpbWUvMTMzNjA1OTI2Ni9zaWQvRm95eENiWGs%3D

The above is for a Western Digital IDE harddrive, and shows the jumper settings.
I posted it for the back view of the harddrive.

Look at the where it states - 40-pin IDE connector.
Now look at the right side where it states - Power connector

When the IDE flat ribbon cable is plugged into the harddrive, the faint red strip faces - Power connector

On the motherboard look at the blue connector stated above.
Looking at it with the optical drive connector above it, (Secondary IDE),
the red stripe goes to the LEFT.

With the IDE cable plugged into the Primary IDE, and the Secondary IDE connector above the Primary IDE connector, the faint red stripe goes to the LEFT.

Need an IDE cable?

http://www.directron.com/ultra66.html

For additional questions please post in a Comment.

Regards,
joecoolvette


( Jose,
The plastic front piece of your computer is the Front Panel.

The area of contact pins on the motherboard, that the wires from the Front Panel go to, is the Front Panel header.
If you need a pinout of what contact pins these wires go to, just state in a Comment )

As I recall busy_bee96 the harddrive technology used is IDE. (Also known as PATA)

Let's see if there is information on HP Support;

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=bph07813&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&cc=us&dlc=en&lang=en&lc=en&product=90384

Yes, if we scroll down to the heading - IDE UDMA Modes, we see ATA 66/100 listed.
IDE (PATA) harddrives are used.

The HP pavilion 513n Desktop PC came with an IDE 60GB harddrive.
I don't know what size Slave drive you are going to install, but there may be a size limitation.

On the back of an IDE harddrive are jumper pins. For the original harddrive these may need to be set to Master.
To perform this function the jumper is placed on the two pins for the Master setting.

These are examples of a Jumper,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jumperblock-shunts.jpg

Small plastic blocks that are hollow inside. There is a rolled spring clip inside the hollow block, that goes over two pins. Connects the two pins together.

General example of the back of an IDE harddrive, showing the Jumper Pins,
I'm going to use Western Digital's IDE harddrive jumper pin settings,

http://wdc.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/463/session/L3RpbWUvMTMxODI2NDI0OC9zaWQvSjEzTHVkR2s%3D

Where it states Dual Master is the setting for the Master harddrive.
Where it states Dual Slave is the setting for the Slave harddrive.

Look at the label on your harddrive, and see if it shows the settings for Master.
If not write down the Model Number, and search it online.
OR, post the Model Number in a Comment, and I'll look it up for you.

It may be where there is NO jumper used on the Master harddrive.

Look up the information for the 2nd (Slave drive) harddrive, if it is not stated on the label.

You need to know where the jumper pin settings should be, when using two harddrives.

Past this point you need to look at the flat ribbon cable.
There are IDE ribbon cables that have 40 wires, and 80 wires.
Both styles have 40 contact pins.
(39 actually. 1 is not used)

With the 40 wire IDE cable the Master harddrive is plugged into the MIDDLE connector, on the cable.
The Slave drive is plugged into the END connector.

With the 80 wires IDE cable, it is reversed.
Master harddrive goes to the END connector, Slave drive goes to the MIDDLE connector.

http://www.mikeshardware.com/howtos/howto_connect_ide_hd.html

These videos may also help;

1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4inX3nC6M1E

2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMTOgt3UiB4&feature=relmfu

(Ol' James is an Electronic Engineer. The lighting was bright, lol!)

For additional questions please post in a Comment.
(Believe upper right of your page. FixYa is undergoing major improvements)

Regards,
joecoolvette

Let's hope the spinning and clicking was caused by a bad circuit board in the WD Book, and not the Harddrive inside it.

To explain;
Inside the plastic external enclosure (Case) of the WD MyBook is an ordinary harddrive as used in a laptop, or desktop computer.

There is a small circuit board inside the case, that the harddrive plugs into. (Or there are wires from the small circuit board, to the harddrive)

The other end of the circuit board, has a USB cable attached to it.
The circuit board is an Interface Board.

It is this small interface circuit board that USUALLY goes out.
Harddrives are pretty tough, but they are a mechanical device, and are rated in hours of usage. They can fail.

What I would suggest is to buy an economical external enclosure.
Has the circuit board, USB cable, and everything needed, just needs the Harddrive.

Installing is easy. There are instructions included.

Now we come to the technical portion.
What size harddrive is it, and what technology does it use?

Size:
1) There are two sizes of Harddrives. They are measured across the Width.

A 2.5 inch harddrive is a laptop size harddrive.
(2 and a half inches across in width)

A 3.5 inch harddrive is a desktop size harddrive.

Once you open the WD MyBook case, and measure, you will know.
Pretty easy.
Technology:
Looking at the harddrives label, will tell you if it is an IDE (PATA) model, or a SATA model.

If no nomenclature is readily apparent looking at the label, there will be a model number on the label.
Put the model number in your search bar.

Example:
WD2500BEVT

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136387

250GB SATA harddrive. Also is a laptop size harddrive.
(2.5)

If you cannot find the information, just post the Model Number in a Comment, and I'll find out.

Example of a 2.5 SATA external enclosure,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3195233&CatId=2783

Example of a 3.5 SATA external enclosure,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2145406&CatId=2780

Example of a 2.5 IDE (PATA) external enclosure,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1086960&CatId=2781

Example of a 3.5 IDE (PATA) enclosure,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1337265&CatId=2779

The information on how to open a WD MyBook case, is not something the external harddrive manufacturer states.
For this we'll have to rely on videos that are made,

1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FlySnyJ0CQ

There are also other related videos to the right.

For additional questions please post in a Comment.

Regards,
joecoolvette

No product support question is stupid, Peter.

1) An IDE cable should be plugged in with the Number 1 socket hole in the IDE cable's connector, going on the Number 1 pin on the harddrive.

Number 1 pin on an IDE optical drive, or harddrive, is next to the 4-pin power connection.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hard_drive-en.svg

Illustration which shows the back of an IDE (PATA) harddrive.

See the area marked as IDE Connector?
Two rows of pins.

Next over are the Jumper pins in the Jumper Block.

Finally, next to the Jumper Block is the 4-pin power connection.


To make sure the IDE flat ribbon cable, is inserted into the harddrive in the correct position, a Locating Lug is usually on the IDE flat ribbon cable's connector.

A small rectangle, or two bumps side by side, on the top edge of the connector.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ATA_Plug.svg

This Locating Lug lines up with a cutout, in the circuit board of the harddrive.
A Locating Notch.

Sometimes there isn't a Locating Lug.
In this case look at the side edge of the IDE cable for the faint Red stripe.
This red stripe is on the same side as Number 1 pin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nappe.svg

So when you go to plug the IDE cable in, make sure the Red stripe is facing the 4-pin power connection.

Goes for an optical drive (CD/DVD drive), or a Harddrive.



(On the motherboard there are usually two IDE headers. {Connectors}

One for the Primary IDE device, a Harddrive, and one for the Secondary IDE device.
Usually an optical drive.

Next to the Primary IDE connector on the motherboard may be PRI, or Pri, or Primary, or IDE 1.
{ In TINY letter/numbers }

Next to the Secondary IDE connector on the motherboard, may be SEC, or Sec, or Secondary, or IDE 2.

Sometimes only the Secondary connector is marked. This tells you the other connector is the Primary connector.

Number 1 pin is towards the marking. Primary, or Secondary.
The Red stripe goes towards the marking on the motherboard )

Also;
There are two rows of pins on the back of the Harddrive for the IDE cable.
With a cursory glance it may look as though there are two rows of 20 pins.
There is not.

One pin has been removed. One row only has 19 pins.
Generally, but NOT always, the matching socket hole in the IDE cable's connector, is blocked off with a plug.

An IDE cable only uses 39 socket holes even if there are 40 shown.

Also; NOT a good idea to put a Harddrive, and an Optical Drive, on the same IDE cable.

BIOS looks to see which drive has the Master Boot Record.
Windows master boot record.
This is on the Harddrive.

BIOS will look at both, the Harddrive, and the Optical Drive.
This slows the computer down, for one.
For two, BIOS may not find which drive has the master boot record, with both drives on the same IDE flat ribbon cable.

Harddrive goes to the Primary IDE cable.
Optical drive/s go to the Secondary IDE cable.



2) As for the power cable it is a 4-pin standard Peripheral power cable.
Often misnomered as a 'Molex' cable.

[Molex was the model name given by the first company to produce this connector.
It stuck.
Kind of like referring to an open-end wrench as a Crescent wrench ]

It is also a STANDARD 4-pin Peripheral power cable, because there two 4-pin Peripheral power cables.

4-pin Standard Peripheral power cable,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#peripheral

Note in the center photo the shape of the connector.
The top two corners are rounded.
Only plugs in, in one direction.

{The Yellow wire is a 12 Volt wire.
Red = 5 Volts
Black wires are Ground wires }

4-pin Small Peripheral power cable,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#floppy

Older computers used this power cable for a Floppy Drive.
Newer computers use it for a Card Reader.


For additional questions please post in a Comment.

Regards,
joecoolvette

Don't wish to down a motherboard manufacturer, as it isn't good business, but I would use a SOYO mobo for a frisbee.

You've indicated that the primary master IDE isn't recognized?
Is this by looking in BIOS Setup?

Have you tried to set the harddrive's parameters manually in BIOS Setup?
Set the Cylinders, Heads, and Sectors?

The Cyl, Heads, and Sec information for each harddrive can be found by looking at the label on the top of the harddrive.
If it isn't listed go to the harddrive manufacturer's website, and use the model number off of the harddrive, to find said information.

Example using Seagate harddrive,
Barracuda, Model number ST3500830A
500GB.

A) 16,383 Cylinders
B) 6 Heads
C) 63 Sectors

Also depends on what flat ribbon IDE cable you're using.
With a 40-wire flat ribbon IDE cable the primary harddrive plugs into the Middle of the cable.
With an 80-wire flat ribbon IDE cable, the primary harddrive plugs into the End connector of the cable.
(Both styles of IDE cables have 40-pins. Actually 39 as 1 is not used)

http://www.mikeshardware.com/howtos/howto_connect_ide_hd.html

(Look under the heading - Connecting Your Hard Drives)

Plus you may want to check the continuity of each flat ribbon IDE cable's wires.
Use a multimeter set to Ohms.
Due to the age of these cables they can go bad.

Regards,
joecoolvette

If you try to enter in safe mode or at last known config and the laptop reboots or freezes then you need to reinstall the operating system if you want to use that hard drive on hp pavilion a1000n. The laptops have different chipset and XP requires to be the same or similar chipset to boot properly.

I think you are using an 2.5" notebook hard disk drive into this external case which hasn't got an extra power supply.

Since you're using an USB1.1 connection this could be a USB1.1 issue, USB2 returns more power to the connected device, since you connected you harddrive too an USB1.1 port you might need an USB cable which you can plug into 2 USB ports.

By doing this one USB port will provide the power to spin the drive up (which needs a lot of power) and the other cable will be able to focus on the data transfer.

You can also check your disk manager, it could be the drive is requesting a drive letter that's aready in use by another device. Go to start -> right mouse click on My Computer -> manage -> storage -> disk management. If the device is within this list you might attach another drive letter to it by doing the following. Right mouse click on the disk -> Change drive letter and paths and there you change the current drive letter into another one.