I'm slightly in the dark on this because I have no idea which model moen shower valve do you have? Here's a shot in the dark....single lever anti-scald tub and shower valves, moen brand in fact, prevent scalding by a means of a cog or two, (a cog is a flat metal piece, with an arm sticking out on a 90 degree angle, and has a star shaped cut out in it's center. That star shaped cut out fits perfectly over and on to the center stem of the valve. These cogs are located under the handle. These two cogs are what limit the handle from opening completely counter clockwise. When the handle is at it's most open counter clockwise position....the port that allows hot water to enter the valve and come out of the shower head is at it most open position. Those two cogs are what prevents the hot port from being fully open by means of the 90 degree arms sticking out and under the handle. The handle has two flat surfaced walls that catch on those arms sticking out from those cogs under the handle. You have to position the cogs on the spindle, (valve stem), in a position that will stop the handle short of full counter clockwise to prevent the shower valve from opening enough to allow enough hot water to pass through the port to possibly scald a person while showering. It's a real tricky process setting those cogs to a position so that when your valve stops it's counter clockwise rotation, (which is how the valve it turned on), it stops in a position that only allows enough hot water to flow that mixes to be a nice warm shower water temperature. You see, with the hot water flow limited, there is little chance you will ever be burned by your shower water (thus...anti scald mode is in operation).....
Now here's the kicker.....When soldering the connections on your shower valve, (during the installation process), the installer must remove the cartridge from the valve body to prevent melting it with his torch while soldering the joints. When that cartridge is removed, those two cogs hang loose and slide off the spline. And when they are removed, it is quite a chore to place them back into the position they are intended to be placed in. and..WHEN THE COGS ARE RE-PLACED IN A CERTAIN (WRONG)POSITION, IT FORCES THE HANDLE IN A POSITION THAT IS WRONG, AND WON'T ALLOW THE HANDLE TO REST IN THE OFF POSITION. The cog arms are preventing the handle from rotating to a completely closed position. Which causes exactly what I think you are experiencing. When the main water valve is turned back on....you can't stop the water from flowing through your newly installed shower valve. Those cogs...in the wrong position on the spline....will not allow the handle to spin to the correct point of the off position.
You have to remove your handle, slide the two cogs off of the spline, then re-place the handle on the spline and turn it until the water stops flowing out of the shower head....now pull the handle back off....look at the underside of the handle....you will see a couple of walls within the open underside. those walls are what the arms on the cogs hit to stop the rotation of the handle....Now hold your handle in front of yourself and face the shower valve....now position the lever on the handle straight down....now lean the handle back to view the positions of those two walls on the underside of the handle.....now imagine those two arms on the cogs sticking out in the area between those to walls ....with one arm positioned to stop the handle in the position with the lever straight down....then imagine the other arm sticking out in a position somewhere around 11 o'clock, (if you look at it like a clock), .....so now the first arm is around 6 o'clock and the other at 11.....now slide the handle onto the spline, with the lever down .....then test the valve by turning counter clockwise to turn it on. ....turn it until it is stopped by the cog arm....now feel your water temperature....if it's good...then turn the handle clockwise to the off position....is it all the way off? if not, pull the handle off...adjust the 6 o'clock cog arm back toward the 7 o'clock position, just one spline ....replace the handle and try again.....that should fix the off position....if you need the water a little warmer, move the 11 o'clock cog arm toward the 10 o'clock position a position or two....to get a cooler mix on your water....move the 11 o'clock arm the opposite direction.... WHEN YOU HAVE FINISHED RE-CALIBRATING THE VALVE....SECURE THE HANDLE AND COVER BUTTON BACK IN PLACE AND CALL IT GOOD...IF YOU DIDN'T DROP THE HANDLE SCREW OR ONE OF THE COGS DOWN THE DRAIN......OOPS...SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED TO PLACE A TOWEL OVER THE DRAIN WHEN YOU DIS-ASSEMBLE YOUR SHOWER VALVE...I hope your not corn fused by my lengthy instructions....and I hope you understood the terms "cog"(the two removable metallic pieces that slide on and off the center spline), -"spline"(the metallic stem sticking out of the center of the valve, it has gears all around it) -"handle lever"(the portion of the handle that protrudes outward, away from the center) -"walls on the underside of the handle"(the two flat pieces molded into the underside of the handle that act as stops by not being able to spin past the protruding arms of the cogs)...Good luck my friend and remember to always work safely....
SOURCE: Moen Bath Tub Faucet
Hi varn4620,
I'm Harvey the Master Plumber.
Your question is: You had to replace the faucet in the tub due to a broken plastic piece in valve stem. Bought a Moen ripped the wall out and put new faucet in. Went good untill we turned the water on and the shower rained on us. Tightened everything you could find to tighten .Every time the water is turned on the shower rains. Can this be fixed or is the faucet broken?
Is this new faudet a single handle? If so I"ve had this experience also. Most of the time it's because the guts were not lined up properly at the factory. You may have to play with it a bit.
Turn off the water and take the handle off and remove the sleave, remove and rotate the guts. Try 90' at a time. Turn water on to try it. Useually one of the other 3 positions will be right. The correct position is there, but it may take time to find it.
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SOURCE: hot and cold backwards on a moen shower faucet
tun off the water.
unscrew teh allen screw under neath the handle. pull out hteh handle. undo the wall plate and gain access to the cartridge in the handle body. turn the artridge around 180 degree and reisntall all parts.
SOURCE: Moen one handle kitchen faucet very low water stream
if the pressure is good with the head off then you can probably get a new head for it u shouldn't have to change the cartrige. it sounds like the head is clogged so plastic pieces in the head to help save water "water savers" it is hard to clean them i would try changing the head u should be able to find on for a moen, u buy for looks u buy it for life. take the old head with u when u go to buy a new one so they can match it up to the right one.if you can't find it and a lowes or home deptm try a plumbing supply house
SOURCE: moen T2113 shower faucet no hot water
You need to replace the stem. This will not cost you a dime; call MOEN and tell them the issue, with the model number, and they will send the replacement part. Many people don't know that MOEN is guaranteed for life (to the original owner)......another words, say you are the original owner :) They will not ask any questions. Good luck! PS Also works on any MOEN faucets you may have.
SOURCE: We have two 16 year old shower faucets (house was
This is a common problem with this type of shower mixer valve. They are not very good at regulating with pressure change. Your options are somewhat limited to not flushing the toilet or using any other taps when in use, repalce the mixer valve for a modern ceramic unit or installing a 2 vane hot & cold shower pump.
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