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I recently had new service installed. 200 amp load center at the top of my stairs, and a QOM2E2200NRB 200 amp enclosed breaker next to the meter socket. Idiot electrician bonded the neutral in the load center instead of the main disconnect. I removed the bonding screw from the load center breaker box, but the spot in the disconnect outside is not threaded to accept a bonding screw.? Anyone know if I am missing something here, or how to get this bonding screw in the disconnect? Thanks for any help!

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Problem is not clear.
You have 200 Amp cut off by meter, with 3 wires from meter box:
2 Hot wires and a ground.
http://waterheatertimer.org/See-inside-main-breaker-box.html

You have 200 amp service panel.
Does the ground wire enter service panel from cut off box?

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SOURCE: Siemens Main Breaker 125 Amp gets warm and trips

sounds like a loose connection ,or possibly a weak main breaker.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Aug 18, 2010

SOURCE: We have a westinghouse box and it has a 200 amp

You should get the exact breaker number to be safe. Westinghouse is not Eaton. Here is one example.
http://www.acehardwaresuperstore.com/westinghouse-replacement-main-circuit-breaker-p-21528.html
There are many places online. 200A breakers rarely fail, unless loose connections on lugs (AL WIRE) cause overheating.

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