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Drive belt and noises.

Machine not spinning, but motor is spinning fine. Took back off and found belt off. Reinstated what appears to be perfectly good belt but as soon as machine is turned back on, the belt works its way towards drum and comes off. Spoke on phone to engineer(who doesn't work on Bosch) and was told to adjust bolts to motor which would tighten belt but upon inspection it would appear the motor housing is attached to drum housing, so no room for adjustment,(although belt in its present location would appear to be correct tension).On the odd occasion when a wash can be performed,there are loud clattering noises on spin.

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  • John O'Connell Aug 03, 2007

    Thank you, your explaation would seem about right.


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Your drum shaft is broken this is making the pulley wobble causing the belt to come off and it will also explain the noise. This is a very expensive job sometimes requiring the complete tub to be changed might be time for a new machine

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