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john maurer Posted on Jul 13, 2007
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Motherboard, processor or other??

Ok So here is the problem. Sometimes the computer will boot and sometimes it gets to the bios screen and restarts several times and then boots into windows xp and sometimes I turn it on and I hear it going but i get no bios screen at all. It used to stay on for several minutes now it gets into windows and immediately freezes. Now when it did boot into windows, I ran the toshiba hardware test and the processor and everything came back ok. I also upgraded the bios to the latest one on toshiba's site. So then i thought it might be overheating, so I took it apart and blew out the processor fan... And I also started it up while it was taken apart looking for fan activity and if anything was missing on the motherboard. The only thing missing on the motherboard is the bios battery which of course produces an error when I boot up. the processor fan seems to be functioning correctly. The computer does the same thing whether I am on battery or plugged in. Also when it turns on the power button is green and then it turns yellow if I press it, but if I hold it down for 5 or 10 or even 20 seconds, the computer never shuts off... Does anyone have any ideas on this? I would really appreciate some help. I can't figure out what is having the issue and I don't want to have to buy all the parts to figure it out... Thanks!!

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  • john maurer Jul 13, 2007

    Also, when it was sitting there stuck after the bios screen, I put the battery in and it immediately started booting into windows. Also I just remembered when I was in windows before it stopped booting that when windows froze, I could unplug the network cable or a usb device that was plugged in and it would start responding again for a few minutes...

  • john maurer Jul 13, 2007

    well the battery I guess broke off when they tried to change it... would that cause the power issues though after it was on? The battery used to have juice but now it doesn't and when I put the battery in the battery light turns yellow.

    Also, new development, when the computer freezes in windows the power button turns from green to yellow and it beeps one long continuous beep.

  • john maurer Jul 13, 2007

    ok, so i soldered the cmos battery back on... and I went to boot the computer (it only allows me to get the toshiba boot screen like 1 time every 5 times I try to turn it on) but the cmos error is gone... sometimes I don't even get the toshiba bios screen before I hear it rebooting itself, it is just a black screen. At that point it hasn't booted far enough to hit any windows drivers. The other thing is that when I boot it up and it is working, when I hold down the power button for 5 seconds the computer shuts off... when it is frozen, the button changes to orange when I push it and doesn't shut off the computer. I have noticed that everytime. If it is running normally the power button shuts it off, if not it just keeps running frozen and I have to either unplug it or take the battery out... Now the power plug seems to be working and it even charged the battery because the battery was dead and now it is holding a charge. I gotta think this is a motherboard or processor problem. So It just got stuck and it seems if I move the battery around it seems to become unstuck... And it really seems to enjoy being lifted up on the right side and used on a slant... it is operating wonderfully on a slant... weird...

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The two issues you mention, the first, no cmos battery fitted, why not?, there should always be a cr2032 cmos battery fited as this is how all the settings for your initial P.O.S.T and all saved bios settings are saved so as to boot into windows, so you must have the battery in, thats why there is a problem with thepower settings, again because the motherboard needs the settings to know what to start looking for. Secondly i would say that there is a driver issue, either with any peripheral that may be connected via usb or because of a motherboard driver problem with the network connector on the motherboard, so check all your drivers.

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