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Anonymous Posted on Oct 27, 2017

E350 5.4 oxygen sensor not reading on one bank

Ford said it was the computer and I just put a new one in still does not read. changed the one oxygen sensor that reads to the one that does not and still does not read. Ford dealer said it was the computer I am taking it back to them because they charged me 250.00 to tell me that and the computer was 385.00. does anyone have this problem.

  • Anonymous Dec 30, 2012

    This truck has a new rebuilt engine in it and now has a new computer in it.Since I bought this truck and the second bank sensor has never read always has read 00and the first sensor has read the right reading. I have been trying to get this fixed for a ong time but still having problems. The truck seems to run fine but gas millage very poor. I have checked voltage at the plug the same as the one that does read I have replaced the one that does read with one that does not and it still did not read.

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Most dealers do not read fault codes just to make money
have the fault codes read and that will determine which exhaust sensors are faulty ( heated oxygen sensor in the exhaust manifold) or o2 ( oxygen sensor after the cat converter)
the reading will also show it there is a problem ECM

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  • Posted on Dec 11, 2008

SOURCE: Service Engine soon light Code P0133

In most cases this means the O2 sensor is defective.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jan 29, 2009

SOURCE: multiple misfire

it could be in the timing...you might have it checked

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 16, 2009

SOURCE: o2 sensor location

DTC P0156 indicates the output voltage of the downstream Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) is less than some calibratable functional window. The possible causes are:

  1. Pinched, shorted and/or corroded wiring and pins.
  2. Crossed sensor wires
  3. Exhaust leaks.
  4. Contaminated HO2S.
  5. Bad HO2S.
Since you didnt specify the engine size in your vehicle - please see the diagram below for the location of the sensor(s)

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on May 27, 2009

SOURCE: Service Engine soon light Code P0133

I just came from an Autozone, and then spoke with 2 Hyundai dealership service departments and they all three stated the P0113 code is the Intake Air Temperature sensor (IAT, also referred to as the Mass Air Pressure - MAP - sensor) on the engine, not an O2 sensor found in the exhaust system.

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  • Posted on Jul 25, 2009

SOURCE: 2004 colorado code p0172

check your gas cap. If you fill your gas while the vehicle is running, it will also cause your light to come on. Go to OReilys or Autozone and they will shut it off for free and tell you the problem

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POO54 error message for 2011 Ford Escape Limited 4 wheel Dr 2.5 Bank 1 Sensor 2 Where is the sensor located? Sorry this is a 4 cylinder

the o'2 sensor is located on exhaust pipe under car, not hard to replace if you can get under the car ,may need a o2 sensor socket set to change it
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Which Oxygen Sensor Is It?

There are many inquiries online about which oxygen sensor to change. Oxygen sensor failure codes are very common on a lot of vehicles. With all of today's vehicles having at least two oxygen sensors and many having three or four of them, it can be a little confusing as to which one is causing the problem.

Before we get into which sensor is which, we need to have a little discussion about oxygen sensor fault codes. There are several different types of oxygen sensor fault codes. Here are just some of the most common ones:

P0135 "Oxygen Sensor Heater Circuit Bank1 Sensor 1"
P0141 "Oxygen Sensor Heater Circuit Bank 1 Sensor 2"
P0147 "Oxygen Sensor Circuit Bank 1 Sensor 3"
P0152 "Oxygen Sensor Voltage High Bank 2 Sensor 1"
P0159 "Oxygen Sensor Slow Response Bank 2 Sensor 2"
P0171 "Oxygen Sensor Lean Sensor 1 Bank 1"
P0172 "Oxygen Sensor Lean Sensor 1 Bank 2"
P0174 "Oxygen Sensor Rich Sensor 1 Bank 1"
P0175 "Oxygen Sensor Rich Sensor 1 Bank 2"

There are many more possible oxygen sensor codes, but I only listed these to make my point. Many times the oxygen sensor code is NOT caused by the oxygen sensor itself. "Lean" or "Rich" oxygen sensor codes (i.e. P0171, P0174) are usually caused by something other than the oxygen sensor. Something is wrong, causing the engine to run lean (not enough fuel or too much air) or causing the engine to run rich (too much fuel or not enough air). In these cases, replacing the oxygen sensor will not fix a thing. (That is, unless you are trying to fix your bank account from having too high of a balance!) The new oxygen sensor will just set the same code as the original one. This is because the oxygen sensor is not CAUSING the problem, it is only REPORTING the problem.

High voltage codes (like P0152 above) can be caused by the oxygen sensor wires being shorted to another wire inside the wiring harness. Sometimes these codes are caused by bad grounds where some other component is trying to ground through the oxygen sensor circuit. Again, replacing the oxygen sensor will not fix this! In short, the problem needs to be diagnosed before running out and buying an oxygen sensor.

Just because a fault code has "Oxygen Sensor" or "O2 Sensor" or "O2S" in its description does not necessarily mean that an oxygen sensor needs to be replaced. Many do-it-yourselfers believe that all there is to fixing the car is to hook it to the "magic box", collect the fault codes and replace the parts the computer tells you to replace. There is nothing further from the truth.

Fault codes only point you toward which SYSTEM is failing. The system must be diagnosed to find the CAUSE of the failure. If this is not done properly, it will only result in wasting a bunch of your money. This is what you were trying to avoid by doing it yourself!

So, after reading all of the above, if you think you still want to replace an oxygen sensor, but don't know which one; here is how to figure it out:

Oxygen sensors are always numbered like this:

Bank 1 Sensor 1
Bank 2 Sensor 1
Bank 1 Sensor 2
Bank 2 Sensor 2

Some manufacturers use a kind of shorthand that reads different, but means the same thing:

Sensor 1/1 or O2s 1/1
Sensor 2/1 or O2s 2/1
Sensor 1/2 or O2s 1/2
Sensor 2/2 or O2s 2/2

Bank 1 is always the side of the engine where cylinder #1 is located and, of course, Bank 2 is the opposite side.
On a 4 cylinder engine, there is only one bank and it is always referred to as Bank 1. The exception to the 4 cylinder rule is on certain 4 cylinder engines (specifically, some Toyotas) there are two catalytic converters used. In this case, Bank 1 sensors will still be in the pipe for the catalyst that is connected to cylinder #1 and Bank 2 sensors will be in the other one.

Sensor 1 is always the "upstream" sensor (the one located BEFORE the catalytic converter).
Sensor 2 is always the "downstream" sensor (the one that is located AFTER the catalytic converter).
Sensor 3 refers to the ONLY "downstream" sensor where there are two sensors before the catalyst and only one after the catalyst. On very few vehicles the reference to this reads "Bank 1 Sensor 3".

If you do not know where cylinder #1 is, then you need to get a diagram of the firing order for your engine. Just post a question on FixYa.com and make sure you give the YEAR, MAKE, MODEL, and ENGINE SIZE of your vehicle and one or more of our experts will be happy to tell you how to find cylinder #1.

- DTTECH
ASE Certified Master Automobile Technician


Also check out this article by dttech: What Else Could Be Wrong?
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I have a 01 ford windstar im getting acode. P1132 can you explain why

P1132
Lack of HO2S-11 Switch, Sensor Indicates Rich A HEGO sensor indicating rich at the end of a test is trying to correct for an over-lean condition. The test fails when the fuel control system no longer detects switching for a calibrated amount of time. I would change both of the upstream (before the catalytic converter) O2 sensors (cylinder bank 0ne and two). 9 times out of ten this is the right guess to fix this code.
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Runs rich, low gas mileage, smokes black with black splatters from exhaust

both o2 sensors are on the right side of vehicle if they are bank 1 sensor 1 and bank 1 sensor 2 ( S11 & S12) sounds like the o2 sensors may not be the problem. Possible restricted exhaust on bank 1 or a fuel delivery problem on bank 1. Have you checked the voltage readings on a scan tool for the sensors on the right bank ( bank 1) ? are they switching or are both voltages the same? If they are the same you will need a new cat converter.
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Need to locate oxygen sensors 1 and 2

Bank 1 is driverside. Bank 2 is passenger side. Sensor 1 bank 1 is before converter. Sensor 2 bank 1 is after conv. Psgr side same
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Cant find base1 sensor2 on a 96 ford explorer 6 cylinder 4 wheel drive

It's called bank, not base. On a v6 or v8, each side of the engine is called a bank. Bank 1 is always the side where the number 1 cylinder is located. On Fords, number 1 is on the right bank or side, the right as if you were sitting in the vehicle, so well, the passenger side.
Sensor 2 is the oxygen sensor in the exhaust stream after the catalytic converter (somebody recently called it the cadillac converter!). You have two oxygen sensors on the right bank, one before the cat and sensor 2 is after the cat. The only purpose of sensor 2 is so the computer can monitor the efficiency of the catalytic converter. It compares the readings from sensor 1 and sensor 2. Sensor 1 information is how the computer adjusts fuel trim.
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Check Engine light with Po131 o2 circuit low voltage sensor 1 bank 1 reading, what does that mean?

- Front Heated Oxygen Sensor Bank 1 harness is open or shorted
- Front Heated Oxygen Sensor Bank 1 circuit poor electrical connection
- Faulty Front Heated Oxygen Sensor Bank 1
- Inappropriate fuel pressure
- Faulty fuel injectors
- Intake air leaks may be faulty
- Exhaust gas leaks

Replacing the O2 Sensor 1 usually takes care of the problem

The front heated oxygen sensor (or O2 sensor 1) is placed into the exhaust manifold. It detects the amount of oxygen in the exhaust gas compared to the outside air. The heated oxygen sensor 1 has a closed-end tube made of ceramic zirconia. The zirconia generates voltage from approximately 1V in richer conditions to 0V in leaner conditions. The heated oxygen sensor 1 signal is sent to the Engine Control Module (ECM). The ECM adjusts the injection pulse duration to achieve the ideal air-fuel ratio. The ideal air-fuel ratio occurs near the radical change from 1V to 0V.
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Hello, I have a 2000 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT V6 3.0 that the service engine light soon has come on. A mechanic put his diagonistics machine on it and the error code P0135 - Heater circuit, bank 1 sensor 1. I...

it is not an O2 sensor but a heated oxygen sensor that is in the exhaust manifold before the cat converter
heated oxygen sensor(HO2S) 1 bank 1 is the one against the fire wall
it is not a heater as such but has an internal heating system so that it reads the exhaust emissions correctly and adjusts the air /fuel settings in the ECM
normally has 4 wires
the oxygen sensor (O2S) is after the cat converters and is a completely different sensor to read a different exhaust gas
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I have replaced my bank one sensor one twice now

It is possible that there could be a leak in the intake on bank one providing a high oxygen reading for that bank. Since this would be unmetered air, (not flowing through the mass airflow sensor) the computer would not trust the reading from the sensor because it could not compensate for it. Possible leaking intake gasket bank one.
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Multiple misfire

it could be in the timing...you might have it checked
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