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Anonymous Posted on Dec 04, 2012

Testing household outlets with 3 light tester

I moved into a 20 year old house and discovered 2 outlets on the same circuit didn't work (the remaining 3 outlets do work, 1 on one side of one nonworking box, the other 2 on the side of the other nonworking box). I bought a circuit tester (a Gardner Bender) and all three lights on the tester showed when I plugged it in the outlets (the red light was dimmer then the 2 orange lights). I checked the connections on the outlets and all were correctly installed (white on the silver screws and black on the brass screws and green to ground. Note: if it means anything, one box had 2 white wires, the other only 1 white). Just to be sure, I replaced both outlets but they still don't work and still show all 3 lights on the tester. Any ideas on what the problem is?

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Have you tried to determine if the problem outlets might be controlled by a wall-switch? This could be the case if separate black wires coming into the box are being used for the different outlets.

  • Anonymous Dec 04, 2012

    Thanks for responding. No they don't but the top socket of a neighbouring outlet that works has a red wire and is operated by a switch.

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SOURCE: purchased a Gardner Bender 3

Hi,
Here is how I would hook that up...
L-white
1- black
2- blue
3- red

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