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Can a 600W dimmer handle 1200W of Lights? on 25% power or less?

I have series of lights, 32 of them with a 40 watt bulb totaling to 1280 watts. Can I use a 600 watt dimmer on only 25 % power max with out burning the dimmer out?

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No, Dimmers are basically resistance devices. The max load on them is not at full brightness anyway.

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  • Posted on Sep 02, 2009

SOURCE: when controlling a 300 watt cable lighting system

Sounds like a loose connection. If they all fo out, it's at the beginning of the circuit. Check all connections at the start of circuit.

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  • Posted on Mar 08, 2011

SOURCE: i have always used a lutron maestro dimmer. I

You should have just two wires plus a ground hooked up to the dimmer. It should install just like the maestro. If you are getting no lights with a double tap, or tap and hold, and if the led is not on, it is one of several things. Most are basic, but will list anyway. Check that your connections are good. Make sure you have power there. Make sure the bulbs are good. If all is fine, you probably have a defective dimmer if it worked prior to this. To test, take the dimmer out, restore power, and carefully touch one insulated wire to the other one. If the light comes on, it is the dimmer at fault.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 20, 2011

SOURCE: we have 9 dimmers 2 - 20 amp circuits, each

The best thing you can do is call Lutron's tech support. It is a 24-hour, 7-day/week service and its free.

Having said that,

If the lights dim every 12-to-25 seconds, it tells me that something's effecting the line-voltage of the circuit. Sharing neutrals between two-lighting circuits is a common culprit, but I'm also wondering if there are other devices running off of those circuits besides the lighting. So what I'd recommend:

1) Try running both circuits off of the same phase in the breaker panel. Actually, at 7.9-Amps & 4.5-Amps (I'm assuming that's what you meant), you should be able to run them off of the same breaker. If that fixes the problem, your issue was most likely common neutral interaction. Solve by running a separate neutral... or... if you can swing it (assuming there are no other loads) leave it on that breaker.
2) Upgrade to a spec-grade dimmer like the NT-600-WH. The spec-grade products will compensate for line-voltage fluctuations that may occur from other devices that cause the line sag or un-sag.

Again, those are two base-level suggestions, but use tech support to take it a step further.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 20, 2011

SOURCE: I have a 600 watt 1 pole Diva dimmer controlling

First of all, in general, dimmers (even at their highest setting) cause the lights to dim even a little bit. If you are doing a 1-for-1 comparison, you may notice a difference - but honestly, it shouldn't be THAT dramatic that you're able to notice it.

My first suggestion is to double-check the model number. There's a version of Diva with a "G" in the model number (DV-603PG-) which was designed with a lower-high-end light level than normal (designed to guarantee extra energy-savings).

If the model number checks out, my next suggestion is to upgrade to a spec-grade product (like an NT-600-WH). The commercia/specification grade products have a higher high-end than the residential grade products. It still will dim the lights a little bit, but will be better.

After that, I suggest calling tech support at 1-800-523-9466 for more suggestions. Its a free call and they're available 24/7.

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Lutron dimmer switch # D1500 1500 120vac Voltage to switch is OK but lights(8 100watts) do not go on.

I can't locate the Lutron D1500 dimmer switch on Lutron web site. Perhaps there is a different number for it.

Anyway, you are attempting to dim a total of 800 watts of light. A standard dimmer switch will not handle this much of a load as they are rated for 600 watts. A 1000 dimmer is the next size up and would be the minimum rating to be used. This means the dimmer would be operating at 80% of capacity and the switch may become warm - but all within acceptable limits.

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Switch cover feels warm -2 pass&seymour dimmers in 4" box is this o.k.

Dimmers are naturally warm.
They are meant to radiate the heat to avoid burning out.
IF the dimmer is HOT, then that is a signals trouble, and dimmer is overloaded or has gone bad. Check Load capacity rating of dimmer, and/or replace HOT dimmer.

Load is the total wattage of lights being controlled.
Ordinary dimmer from box store usually has load rating of 600 watts.
Other residential dimmers are rated up to 1800 watts, which is max for residential dimmers.
1800 Watt dimmers have special aluminum cover that looks like a heat sink, because it is a heat sink. Aluminum dissipates heat faster than other metals, so dimmers usually have special aluminum cover or they can have aluminum fins that stick out on the sides so heat radiates.

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I just installed a 1000 W 3-way toggle dimmer for a load of 12 75 W recessed lights, each holding 65W bulbs. When I turn the lights on, the metal plate around the dimmer gets very hot. Is this normal?

The watt rating is absolutely critical to the operation of the device.
The high heat is a direct result of too much amperage flowing through the dimmer.

Reduce your wattage immediately or stop using the dimmer.
You have a fire hazard.

According to the math, you have 20 - 65 Watt bulbs
Change 12 of the bulbs to 40 watt and you will drop to the 1000W max.
12 x 40 = 480W
8 x 65 = 520W
Total = 1000

However I am worried about this circuit.
A typical 15 amp switch (not a dimmer, but the switch) is maxxed-out at 1440 Watts.
So if you had 20 100 watt bulbs for 2000 Watts, it would heat up the 15 amp switch
It seems very odd that an electrician would put 20 lights on one circuit without having a 20 amp switch and 12 gauge wire.
Look at the markings on the switch you replaced and look for amps or watts.
And then look at the color of the wire cable inside your box ... 12 gauge wire is yellow and the lighter-weight 14 gauge wire is white.
If you have a white wire going to all those lights, then you are going to burn down the house unless the total wattage is reduced.
Volts X Amps = Watts.

I think your circuit needs a review to make sure it has the correct wire.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Color-codewire2.html

This being said, Lutron makes 1800 Watt dimmers.
You can web search: 1800Watt single pole dimmer
If you have yellow-colored 12 gauge wire, it can carry up to 1920 Watts

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Wired up dimmer light output is not the same as when i hook it up to a regular switch

1) Overview of product indicates it dims by electronics (they say saves 15% electricity)
The electronics might be bad
http://www.lutron.com/Products/StandAloneControls/Dimmers-Switches/MaestroDimmerSwitch/Pages/Overview.aspx

2) Load types
Different dimmers are made to work with different types of lighting
Depending on your model number, the type of load may be a factor
http://www.lutron.com/Products/StandAloneControls/Dimmers-Switches/MaestroDimmerSwitch/Pages/Models.aspx

3) Total load
A regular 15 amp light switch carries 1440 watts
If you have the 600 Watt dimmer, load wattage should not exceed 600W >>> add up total bulb wattage

4) Lutron seems to have about 60 different manuals
A quick look at the wiring seems straightforward 1-1 wiring replacement with ordinary switch
Did you connect ground wire to green screw on dimmer?

5) If the dimmer and load requirements match with the dimmer you own, I think the problem might be a short .... exactly where the short is located is solvable by testing the lights and timer and surrounding circuits with a multi-tester >>> the testing would start at the dimmer.

6) All considered, you could replace the dimmer with another one from Home Depot and see if same problem persists.
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Lights can be turned off and on but not dimming. I felt the wall plate was hot to the touch. The dimmer was working until bulbs were replaced.

If your wallplate is hot, that is a sign of trouble, and possible electrical fire. That dimmer is not made for the load, or it is going bad.

Turn off the dimmer immediately. Do not use the dimmer at all. Replace with a wall switch until you have the correct dimmer.

Each dimmer is rated for Watts. Ordinary electrical switch is rated by amps. Ordinary 15 Amp electrical switch can handle up to 1400 Watts. This means 14 - 100 watt bulbs.

Dimmers are usually not rated for 1400 Watts. They have 500-600 Watt rating. Look at the side of your dimmer for Wattage information that is usually printed on dimmer.

Heavier-duty dimmers cost more and can carry more wattage. Some dimmers carry up to 1800 watts. These kinds of dimmers have aluminum heat sink visible right on the face of dimmer.

In any case, your dimmer is an electrical fire hazard and should be replaced. Add up total wattage of your lights, and read new dimmer package when buying.

Up-vote if this information is helpful. Thanks for the feedback.
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