Question about Canon ZR850 Mini DV Digital Camcorder

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Canon ZR 850

Hi. I am trying to hook up my canon ZR850 to my laptop for the first time using a firewire cable. My laptop has a built in firewire port. I am using windows XP. But windows does not pick up the camcorder. Is there driver software that needs to be installed? I am trying to use it on Pinnacle 10, but not detected.

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  • Anonymous Nov 19, 2007

    Have connected the camera but my computer doesn't recognize the camera, what's wrong?

  • Anonymous Sep 28, 2008

    I have a canon zr80 that always worked on windows media player but not anymore. Why?

  • AmandaRead Oct 23, 2008

    I have the same problem on both my Acer Aspire Windows Vista Laptop and my Windows XP Desktop. Windows Movie Maker simply says that there is no device connected, but I'm certain that it is connected. I have no idea what to do about it.

  • christian545 Jan 07, 2009

    ZR850 Mini DV Digital Camcorder and a Thinkpad and Acer, both with Windows Movie Maker. Neither of my laptops have a firewire port so I got a PCMCIA card that has 2 usb pots and two firewire ports (one small and one regular). I tested the USB ports on the car and they work fine with my mouse but I can't find anything to recognize the firewire. The fact that the computer recognizes the USB ports leads me to believe that the card is fine and my problem is in the "user error" category, that there's something specific I should be doing with the ZR850 or a specific setting in WMM that I haven't figured out. I've tried selecting "capture from video device" in WMM while the camera is off, on, playing back, recording, and every time it says it doesn't recognize any video capturing device.

  • grenzebach Jan 30, 2009

    after connecting the laptop to camcorder via firewire cable, the DV-IN flashes on the screen of camcorder, but the laptop does not show any thing. what do i do?
    mail me at [email protected]


  • veronica_zan Apr 27, 2009

    My computer is not recognizing my Canon ZR850 through my firewire port. Any ideas?????

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I did try the windows movie maker soluction but it still is saying no camera

Posted on Nov 19, 2007

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I'm having the same problem Dave; it's not about not having software available to capture, it's that neither my laptop nor desktop recognize that there is a device plugged into the firewire port, although my still camera and jump drive are picked up fine. I left my Canon manual back East on a trip and am waiting for my cousin to mail back to me to see if it says there. Was thinking the camera must need to be on a certain setting, but it's not obvious. It's not the cable or port either, works fine on other devices. Please post if you find a solution somewhere - for us both!

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Do you have windows movie maker? try it. In the file menu,open capture video.

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Hello, My laptop does not have a firewire port. What do I have to do to transfer video to my laptop from my GL2?


What brand and model is your laptop?
Since we don't know the laptop model I have to cover a little more info here.

Most laptops have at least 1 expansion ports available on the side and you can use that to add additional ports or features if needed such as Firewire, USB2.0, or Ethernet, etc

Older laptops came with 1 or 2 full size PCMCIA ports. Those are rarely used anymore.

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The Canon GL2 uses the original 400Mbps 1394 protocol but the connector might be proprietary since it appears to have 5 pins.
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