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Anonymous Posted on Oct 28, 2012

Have winrich perfecta ventfree lp model 6380. Very hard to start. Ignition switch never worked correctly. Pilot and ods showing corrosion. Doesn't stay lit very long. Can I replace the pilot/ods a

It takes over 30 minutes to start this fireplace. Multiple clicks with the ignitor switch before pilot will light. Then need to hold button in until it decides it will allow the pilot to stay lit so I can rotate the knob further to light the fireplace. Sometimes have to hold button for 30-40 minutes. Pilot light will stay lit for a day or so, but then goes out. Been this way since new. Can the ignition switch setup and pilot/ods be replaced with another model? If so, what would work?

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First clean out pilot light with can of air , or blow down it with a tude.
Then brush electrode clean with a clean paint brush ,chech to see if electrode is in the right postion to light the gas not too far away and the spark is strong , Clean thermopile head if fitted, then check thermocuople /thermopile connections are tight . see if this helps .

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djdsr

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  • Posted on Dec 02, 2008

SOURCE: Propane fireplace insert won't light

Gas apliances have safety features built into them so you don't blow yourself up. The pilot heats a thermocoupler which tells the gas valve there is a flame, open the main gas to the burner. If you can see the flame area of the pilot look for a round post about 3/16 inch in diamiter. This should be directly in the flame, if not bend the bracket so it is in one side of the pilot flame. The thermocouple is attached to a mounting bracket. This will be held in place by a 1/4 inch hex screw. remove the screw and the capilary tube leading to the gas control valve. Before you do anything, close the main gas supply to the fireplace and disconnect the power to the fan. You may need to semi dismantle the fireplace to get the thermocouple. The gas valve end is a brass 1/4 pipe thread plug. Turn the outer nut and remove without twisting the tube. Reverse this order to install a new one. Besure not to twist the capilary tube, tighten brass nut 1/4 turn past hand tight. Your better heating supply house will have these in stock. Restarting the pilot will take a few tries because the gas was off. Your gas suplier would charge about $75 to fix this. if you don't have the proper tools and it dosen't look pretty stright forward don't do it. You could get dead.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Dec 06, 2007

SOURCE: Unable To Keep Pilot Light Lit!

I have a Williams top vent gravity wall furnace (model 5009622) and I had the same problem. I had to take the cover off the furnace -- screw on top and two at the bottom (open the access door and there is one screw on each side) to get to the reset button for the vent safety shutoff system. On my furnace it's on the left side toward the top of the unit. I pressed the little red reset button and it's been working ever since. If your furnace is properly installed and doesn't have bird's nest in the chimney, it should work fine. Good luck!

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Dec 06, 2008

SOURCE: pilot light will not stay lit

Clean the pliot light tube with a Q-Tip and alcohol. Clean 2 inches deep. This will increase the pilot light flame and it will heat up the thermocoupler so it will stay lit.

Papa0106

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  • Posted on Feb 28, 2009

SOURCE: Pilot light won't stay lit

Look for dust and lint. Look for them in places where gas should be freely flowing. I had a similar problem with an Empire Corcho wall-mounted propane ceramic catalyst heater. First it was the pilot light, then the #2 ceramic mantle. After horsing around with the gas lines and pressure regulators and trying to re-aim the pilot, it all turned out to be dust and lint in the gas passages. A little dust bunny in the brass pilot tube gave me a pilot light the shape and color of a banana. One puff of compressed air, and I got back my razor-sharp pilot. And some dust in the chimney of the #2 burner kept it burning blue/yellow and blistering paint off the upper surfaces of the heater. A bit of cleaning with a shop-vac put that right. "Passive" heaters are very much prone to this sort of problem because they rely on convection currents (i.e. LOW velocity) to get the job done. Convection currents are notorious dust collectors, as in COBWEB CITY.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 29, 2009

SOURCE: Torpedo heater wont stay lit.

Do you have the serial number or the manufacture date? There are some design changes and I would need to know the year of manufacture to assist accurately. Usually it is a relay or the thermocouple connection that will affect the unit staying lit.

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