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Fabric conditioner still in draw after wash cycle

The fabric conditioner is not been fully taken into the washing machine (FJD1466W). After the wash cycle has finished the fabric conditioner is watered down but still apparent in the draw. I have cleaned all inside the draw and inside where the draw goes and run service washes. Any help greatly appreciated

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  • Andrew Wainwright Apr 29, 2007

    Before I posted the problem I stripped the draw down and cleaned it all out as well as cleaning all inside the area where the draw goes as best as I could.

    I don't understand how the syphon works or how the fabric conditioner part manages to empty itself of the conditioner.

  • Anonymous Apr 19, 2009

    I have the same problem, what ever wash I put the machine on the fabric conditioner is always left in the draw. I often run service washes and I also use a descaler to keep the machine in good clean condition

  • Anonymous Mar 15, 2014

    Washing machine does not use fabric conditioner and still leaving water in the washer after cycle?

  • Anonymous Mar 30, 2014

    The fabric softener does not empty from the soap draw at the end of the wash cycle the conditioner is still left in the soap draw

  • Anonymous Apr 01, 2014

    detergent draw still got fabric conditior in it,and black slime, needs to be cleaned but cant get draw out.also when wash is compleat, got black marks on washing

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This is usually a matter of pulling the drawer right out (it is designed to let you do this) and taking it to bits (it's designed for this too). Most front-loaders have a bit of a design weakness in that the bit that gets blocked with conditioner isn't immediately obvious without a little bit of prior dismantling. Once you get the top off the drawer, you'll almost certainly find the siphon tube gummed up with old conditioner. Clean this up under a hot tap, then reassemble and all should be well. A.

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  • Anonymous Apr 29, 2007

    Here's how it works.

    There's a small tube comes up through the floor of the drawer. The height of this tube is chosen so that the top is just above the surface when you first pour conditioner in.

    A cap built into the lid of the drawer fits over the top of this tube, and extends almost to the bottom of the drawer.

    Between them - and this takes a bit of a leap of imagination to picture - the tube and the cap form a channel which goes from the floor of the drawer up to a point above the normal conditioner level, then down to a point lower the the bottom of the drawer (and outside). For most of the cycle, as you might expect, the conditioner sits in the bottome of the drawer, unable to climb the wall of the outlet tube.

    During the fill for the final rinse, the machine squirts water into the drawer, (hence your watered-down conditioner), raising the liquid level above the top of the tube.

    Not surprisingly, the overflowing conditioner starts to run out down the tube. You've now got liquid running up the gap between the cap and the tube, and running down the inside of the tube.

    Even when the flow of water into the drawer stops, the drawer will continue to drain until empty, because between them, the tube and the cap form a siphon.

    Although not 100% accurate, it helps to think of it like this: The whole "up then down" channel formed by the cap and the tube are now full of liquid. There are two bits (legs) to this - one between the cap and the tube, and the other in the tube itself.

    In both these legs, the liquid would flow downwards if anything could come in the top to fill the space the liquid left behind. Since the top is closed off, the two legs have to fight one another. Since (here's where the explanation is slightly fudged) the leg in the middle of the tube goes down slightly deeper than the one between the cap and the tube, there's a slightly greater weight of liquid in it - as a result, the tube wins the fight. Imagine a balance tipping towards the heavier weight: The liquid in the tube runs downwards, drawing liquid up the gap between the cap and the tube to replace it. The gap is replenished from the drawer, and liquid keeps on pouring up, over, down and out until the liquid level in the drawer reaches the bottom of the cap (i.e. until the drawer is nearly empty).

    Although the usual cause of these symptoms is the gap between cap and tube getting gummed up, other possibilities are:

    1. Water not being squirted into the conditioner section (try running a final rinse with the drawer remover, and see where the water goes)

    2. Cracked, poorly fitted, or missing cap allows air in - which would destroy the siphon effect.

    3. Poorly fitted cap doesn't go far enough towards the bottom of the drawer - the drawer will always only empty as far as the bottom of the cap.

    A.

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