Question about Kenmore 41389 Electric Double Oven
Keeps coming on after getting a message that says "Push Start for lower oven" with constant beeping. I bought this used and did not get a manual. Could you please help?
The root cause of most F7 problems is a short circuit in between the two segments of the ribbon cable. In cases with a metal touch panel, there could also be a short circuit between the ribbon cable and the edge of the slot in the touch panel. __The solution is the same for both problems. Add insulation. My fix which has worked for hundreds of cases is to simply place a slip of paper in between the two sections of ribbon cable and for metal touch panels, also between the ribbon cable and the edges of the slot. Try to work the insulation down into the slot at least 1/8". See the attached photo which shows my solution. The short circuit is caused by what is known as a dendrite. This is a form of corrosion that is quite common to printed circuits. Moisture is the primary culprit.____Cleaning the contacts is often suggested. This only works for a short length of time. The movement of the cable temporarily interrupts the short circuit, but with time it grows back again.____Using the self cleaning feature seems to accelerate the deterioration of the cable.____Don't worry about putting paper in the top of oven. It will not get hot enough to burn. GE places service instructions in the top of the oven.____Be certain to turn off the power to the oven before opening the touch panel.____This problem is the result of a design defect in GE ovens that is common to ovens produced since 1998.
Posted on Apr 14, 2007
A sheet of paper trimmed to fit between the ribbons; a small piece of electrical tape on the metal edge; problem solved! You are a genius. Possible savings of 200-500 dollars. Dennis C.
Posted on Dec 08, 2007
Simple solution that saved me time and money. I cut the power to the oven, removed the three panel screws, opened the panel, inserted the paper, secured with electrical tap, put it all back together and the problem was solved.
Raz, Phoenix, AZ
Posted on Dec 16, 2007
"Powerman", Solution #6 is spot on. Worked like a champ for me.
Posted on Apr 18, 2010
I woke up this morning at 4:30 a.m. to what I thought was my fire alarm, it turned out to be my 7 year old Kenore Elite double oven, that had gone crazy. I ended up flipping the breaker a couple of times and then just shut it off till I could figure out what to do. I got online looking for a solution and thanks to powerman found a solution that was great. The instructions were clearly written and so easy to follow. I am a 53 year old woman with no mechanical skills, but with this solution a screwdriver and an index card I fixed my F7 problem in less than 10 minutes. Thank you again.
Posted on Oct 07, 2008
This solution worked for me, too! Thanks for the advice!!
Posted on Mar 01, 2008
So far so good.that explains why the first time i moved the ribbon cable the f7 stop for about a yr then it came back.this is a good tip thanks
Posted on Aug 31, 2007
I got the "F7" on my GE oven. Tried your "piece of paper" solution and IT WORKS! Thanks very much. Al, Austin Tx
Posted on Jun 09, 2007
I CLEANED THE CONNECTION ON THE RIBBON AND THAT SOLVED MY PROBLEM ON CODE 7
Posted on May 08, 2007
You can find my solution to the most common cause of the F7 problem at the following link:
I have helped over 1600 folks solve the F7 problem. The problem is usually with the touchpanel and not the ERC. My fix tells how to determine which part is faulty. Hopefully you will not need to purchase a new touchpanel, however, if you do, an internet search will lead you to lower cost sources.
Please let me know if my fix works for you. You can email me at:
Posted on Mar 22, 2008
Try this first!
The control panel has a flat ribbon cable that plugs into the relay module. The ribbon is actually two ribbons pressed together. The plastic insulation has a defect, and the leads between the two ribbons cross. You can seperate them easily by lifting them apart. Place a piece of paper between them to act as an insulator. This should solve your problem. If that does not work, repalce the defective parts yourself. You can do it for about 30% of what a repair company would charge. it's either got to be 1. Control panel 2. Relay panel. Good luck!!!
Posted on Nov 08, 2009
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