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Anonymous Posted on Apr 11, 2017

Insufficient gas pressure at the pilot to heat thermocouple

When the pilot button is pushed in, just a trickle of gas flows through--just enough to look like a small candle burning when I light it with a lighter. Not even enough for the igniter to light. The little, vertical flame will not heat the thermocouple sensor so the gas will not flow through for the heater to come on. I checked the tank, and tested the gas pressure regulator between the propane tank and the gas line to the appliance.
It worked fine 2 months ago when I took it in our 5th Wheel to keep us warm at 8,000 feet elevation where we did not have hook-ups. Now that I put it back in our home, it won't work.

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SOURCE: pilot lites; but, as soon as I turn on gas flame

sounds like your thermacouplar is going out and needs replaced. Sometimes these will act like they are working fine , but when the pilot stays on for awhile and later goes out it is a sure sign that it is bad

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Could be the instructions are out of date as sometimes the button on other appliances has been integrated into the main control knob. Perhaps this is the case with your appliance...

If this is the case the lighting instruction might be similar to below.
In the off position it is possible to push the control knob in a short way to supply gas to the pilot and then turn the knob anti-clockwise for ignition. Once lit it is important to keep the knob pushed in until the thermocouple is warm enough to maintain gas flow and then it can be released and the desired heat setting selected.
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Problem is not thermocouple:
Thermocouple should be finger-tight plus 1/4 turn
Overtightening will short thermocouple against gas control valve, and solenoid switch will not open, and no gas will reach pilot once red button is released.
Tip of thermocouple has to sit in the pilot flame.
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Problem is not solenoid switch.
The gas control valve solenoid opens and closes gas supply to gas control valve.
On mechanical gas control valve, when you push down the red button to light pilot, then you are opening the solenoid and letting gas flow into gas control valve.
When heat is applied to thermocouple, a small electric current travels to gas control valve, and this causes solenoid to stay open.
If you extinguish pilot, then no current travels to gas control, and solenoid clicks off.
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However, since you are getting gas to pilot light, then the solenoid is not the problem.

This leaves 4 possible problems:
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http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/How-to-replace-water-heater-gas-valve.pdf
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4) Clogged air intake on FV water heaters: Rheem FV gas water heaters have glass vial that will break if combustion is slowed by clogged air intake.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-repair-Rheem-TRD.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-gas-water-heater.html

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sounds like the thermocouple:
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This is a pretty common failure on water heaters and furnaces. Replacement of the thermocouple is fairly simple if you are the handyman type. If not, the thermocouple is a cheap part -- about $10 bucks, but the service call may run you $100 or so. Before you call a serviceman, get all of the brand and model information from the information plate on the heater so he can bring the proper replacement part. And sorry for your trouble. hope this helps:)
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Make sure the other end of the thermocouple is clean and tight in the gas valve.

Hold the pilot plunger down for at least a minute to be sure to give the thermocouple enough time to heat up.
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