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Anonymous Posted on Apr 23, 2012

Nikon FG Shutter Speed Fixed at 1/90

Hello, I just recently purchased a Nikon FG, but the shutter speed seems to be stuck at 1/90, regardless of what speed or setting I set the camera too. Before people mention, I've already tried shooting until the first frame, but that does not fix the problem. Nor does loading film into it help. When looking into the view finder, both the lights from 60 and 125 are flashing, regardless of setting. And when I set the camera t P (Program) mode, and shoot in light and dark conditions, I can see that the aperture is changing size depending on the light. So I am 100% certain the meter is working, at least in some capacity. Also, when I remove the battery, and shoot at any speed other than M90 or B, the mirror locks up. When I replace the battery, and switch to M90 to release the mirror, then shoot at a manual speed, it still shoots at 1/90. I've read somewhere that if the camera detects a flash attached to the hotshoe, it will automatically set the cameras shutter speed to 1/90 (the cameras flash sync speed), but only when set to 1/125 or faster. It shoots at 1/90 regardless. It will trigger a flash when one is attached, and the hotshoe has been cleaned, so the hotshoe may not be the issue. I have already removed the top plate to see if there are any issues. I did notice one line of a circuit near the shutter button rusted, you can see the circuit in this image (http://www.flickr.com/photos/googlit/283941616/in/set-72157594352512714). It's the one closest to the frame counter, connected to the yellow wire. I cleaned it, but it seemed to rust through. I don't have any conductive paint, so I tried taping a piece of aluminum foil to it, in the hopes of closing the circuit. My hope is that the foil just isn't working, and that I need to solder or use conductive paint. If indeed the hotshoe is the issue, I'm willing to sever the wires connecting them to the camera, in the hopes that it will let the camera know that there is no flash attached, and let it use other shutter speeds. Any advice would be much appreciated, thanks in advance. P.S. I'm willing to open up the camera and tinker around if there are any drastic fixes that may work.

  • Anonymous Apr 23, 2012

    It seems that fixya doesn't like how I paragraphed my question, and instead made it one big wall of text, thanks.

  • Anonymous Apr 23, 2012

    Upon doing further research, it may actually be the electrons for the frame counter that is forcing the camera to shoot at 1/90.

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