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How much detergent that is not HE can I use?

I just got the washer and dryer and have a lot of detergent left over from my previous washer.  How much regular detergent can I use and specifically how much of the powdered detergent?

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I have 1 yr old front loader HE3T and been repairing 26 plus years i studied soaps own family business and i will only use 1/3 cup armen hammer powered reg only i am documenting whats my washer is doing no smells no mold fresh smells i work with appliances all day husband is butcher 26yrs,i use warm wash cold rinse. i did same with my kenmore top loader,less soap plz

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It is strongly recommended that you DO NOT use regular detergent in an HE washer. The regular detergent is formulated for a wash tub capacity of 35 gallons. A High Efficiency washer, such as yours, only uses 5 to 7 gallons of water per load. You can potentially cause premature failure of the gaskets and seals, as well as drain pump problems by using a higher concentration of detergent. In addition, you may end up with residual soap left retained in your clothing which can cause skin irritation. So...if you do the math, you would have to use about 1/5th the amount of soap you would normally use. However, if this is a new washer, you will void the manufacturers warranty if it discovered that you purposely used improper detergent. There is a disclaimer in the Owner/Operators Manual that should explain this. I hope you find this information helpful.

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