Needle/hook timing is off - Sewing Machines

If the needle on your Singer sewing machine model 5830c is hitting the hook and you have verified that it is the correct needle for the machine, there could be a few different issues causing the problem. Here are a few things you can try to troubleshoot the issue:

1. Check the needle height: Make sure the needle is properly positioned in the machine and is not set too high or too low. If the needle is set too high, it can hit the hook as it rotates. You can adjust the needle height by turning the handwheel towards you until the needle is in its highest position, and then turning the handwheel away from you until the needle is one or two notches above the highest point of the hook.
2. Check the needle size: Make sure you are using the correct size needle for the fabric and thread you are using. If the needle is too small for the thread or fabric, it can cause the needle to hit the hook as it rotates.
3. Check the bobbin case: If the bobbin case is not properly seated in the machine or is damaged, it can cause the needle to hit the hook as it rotates. Make sure the bobbin case is correctly installed and not damaged.
4. Check the machine's timing: If the timing of the machine is off, it can cause the needle to hit the hook as it rotates. You can check the timing by removing the needle plate and observing the movement of the hook as the machine runs. If the hook is not moving in sync with the needle, it may be necessary to adjust the timing of the machine.

If you have tried these troubleshooting steps and the problem persists, it may be necessary to have the machine serviced by a professional. A technician will be able to diagnose the problem and determine the necessary repairs.

you don't the timing is set by the needle position not the hook
the crank that operates the needle is adjustable and is set properly when the needle eye is just at the hook on the up stroke

all sewing machines are basically the same, the hook that rotates to pick the cotton up off the needle must just enter behind the needle when it's on it's way back up which then grabs the cotton to form the stitch, so you must remove the sole plate to expose the shuttle case remove the shuttle and put to one side, now rotate the hand wheel on the sewing machine in the correct rotation and watch the hook rotate round until it goes behind the needle, just as the needle is starting back up from it's lowest position the hook should just be going behind the needle to pick up the cotton, if this is not the case then loosen the screws that clamp the hook assembly to the shaft and rotate the hook assembly gently until the hook is just going behind the needle and make sure the hook is close to the needle before retightening the clamping crews , and final give it a few turns by hand to make sure the hook locates the same all the time and the hook is not catching the needle, when your happy, then reassemble.

Happy sewing

of course but how thick are the goods u r sewing and hopefully u r using the right size needle. u need a no. 22 for heavy goods. yes your hook timing could be off and if u continue to break needles you will damabe the hook, fine emery paper will take any burrs off the hook. slide plate that covers the hook and turn wheel slowly and watch the needle and hook interplay. unthread needle for this. the hook should be about 1/16 from needle before the needle starts to rise.. good luck on setting the timing i can't even do that. since its a walking foot mach. i doubt the timing is off!!

Remove the bobbin case and unthread the machine.

Ensure that a new needle is inserted all the way up into the needle clamp.

Set the machine for straight stitch, center needle position.

Lay the machine on it's back, preferably on a rolled up towel to protect it.

In the bobbin area, carefully snap to the sides the little black arms which hold the race cover and remove the cover.

Slowly turn the handwheel in the normal sewing direction and observe the following hook timing setting:

When the needle reaches it's lowest point and travels up 2mm, the point of the hook should be directly behind the needle, or at least within 1 or 2mm.

Another view is as the hook passes the needle, it should pass the needle slightly above the eye of the needle.

If the timing looks good, use some alcohol on a bit of cloth to clean the hook, careful around the tip of the hook as it is very sharp.

If the hook timing is off, you will need to take it to a knowledgeable service person as there are several possible solutions and several other related adjustments which will need to be made.

It also may be possible that the hook is too close laterally to the hook, whereby a service person will be needed.

That isn't the timing. If the hook is hitting the needle the hook is too far left - or close to the needle. It's adjustable by loosening the set screw at the base of the hook and by gently tapping the hook away from the needle. You want the hook to be close enough to the needle to pick up the thread loop that's formed just as the needle bar is rising.

To reset the timing on your machine there are timing marks that show you where the machine must be set.
Remove the needle plate and bobbin case. Turn the hand wheel towards you until the needle bar is in the lowest position. You will see two marks on the needle bar with the top one being flush with the bottom of the bushing. If it is not, loosen the needle bar screw and move it up or down to set the marks. Make sure you keep the needle bar straight (needle clamp screw should be straight to the right).
Next turn the hand wheel until the lower timing mark is flush with the bushing. At this point, the hook tip should be just above the eye of the needle.
If the hook tip and needle do not line up, turn the machine on its back making sure the needle bar does not move. Loosen the two timing screws on the hook pulley (only loosen them 1/4 turn). Move the hook to line it up with the needle. Tighten the screws and recheck the timing. The feed dogs should be in the down position when timing the machine. If the feed dogs are up when the timing is done, the hook timing is out 180 degrees.

it is called needle and hook timing
after the needle has been fully down and is starting to come back up the hook for the bobbin carrier should be at or slightly before the eye of the needle
in most machines it is adjustable by loosening of the clamp on the needle shaft and moving the shaft up or down to get the desired position relation of needle to hook
don't turn the machine or that alters the hook position so leave it steady while moving the needle shaft
once the desired timing is achieved re-tension the clamp on the shaft
go google and type in--t workshop manual ( not user ) for your make and model machine manual)in pdf version for your make and model machine and the needle /hook timing and adjustment procedure should be in there

Timing of a sewing machine, which timing? Needle to hook timing is fairly simple, turn the hand wheel in the direction the machine sews until it is at bottom of the stroke. Continue turning it until it moves up 2.54 mm if it is timed correctly the point of the hook should be right behind the needle and passing above the eye in the middle of the scarf of the needle. There are several timing of a sewing machine, needle to hook, feed and swing timing.

You might have to look at loosening the set screws for the gear on the lower shaft that drives the hook driver gear . Loosen the screws, slide the gears apart, then adjust the hook so it is entering the scarf of the needle on the upstroke. Slide the gears togeather so they mesh again and it should be back in time. There are other factors though such as needle height adjustment which is done with the needle bar and hook and needle clearance (the distance between the needle and hook) which should be about .030. I'm a Bernina tech but many machines work the same principle. Good luck.