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I have a cobra 29 with a rfx-75 on the back and there is a swing kit in the radio. I use a 2 pill fatboy as well. When i got the radio it had a 5 watt dead key. I lowered the dead key to a 2 watt dead key. Well found out that with a rfx-75 when you talk on it and the rfx gets warm the dead key will drop. Since i set it to a 2 watt dead key it dropped to no dead key. I reset it to a 4 watt dead key so i would drop to a 2 watt dead key. Well know i can turn on the radio and talk and there is no dead key and somertimes ther is. Any ideas on what is causing this problem?

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You need to have a 15 watt dead key to run the rfx dont undet or ooverdrive it . It will blow the mosfet .

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Reset it to 2.5 watts

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Feb 19, 2009

SOURCE: not enough watts

All he is asking for is this...

Find VR4. Its near the big transformer. Turn it all the way to the left. That is your AMC. that will turn your modulation all the way up.

If you have a power meter you can raise your dead key, or carrier signal as raising the modulation only effects your swing.

If you don't have power meter, then don't mess with it. Increasing the modulation will be a big improvement.

If you do have a power meter then here is what you do. Find L12 near the final, is near the heat sink in the little space near the transistor. that is your final. Turn this out, to the left, with the radio keyed until the needle stops moving up. don't turn it out any more.

***** NOTE IMPORTANT *******

Do not do this with no antenna hooked up, or without a dummy load. You will blow up your final. You can never key the radio with out a 50 ohm load on the radio.

You can make a simple dummy load to do this inside instead of out in your vehicle. Take a CB coax and 5 150 ohm resistors. Hook the 3 ends of the resistors together and solder them, and do the same with the other side. then solder on end to the center piece of a coax, and then to the out side piece. that will give you a 50 ohm load when you connect it to the radio. If the Ant light goes on, stop right away you did something wrong.

You will also need a power supply. If you have an old computer, you can use the power supply from it to power the radio. Yellow wire on one of the power supply ends to the red wire, and the black can go to either of the black wires.


If you are not sure, just increase the modulation with VR4. that will make the radio swing to about 20 - 25 watts.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 24, 2009

SOURCE: cobra 29 ltd classic antenna calibration ??

Wow. That's not at all a solution to what this guy is asking. And why all the caps??

The one point jm77437 has that is correct is that you do not set the radio, you set the antenna. The rest is blah blah.

Here is how you tune your antenna for you radio. First off it depends on what kind of antenna you have. most fiberglass antennas have a tunable tip to adjust the height of the antenna. Metal whips either have a collar at the base that the whip will either slide up or down in to adjust the height. The other type of metal whip's you have to physically clip to shorten the antenna, you must be careful with this type because once its clipped, that's it. You cannot add what you cut off.

I am going to give this example using a metal whip with an adjustable collar.

First after your radio is hooked up in the vehicle, drive to an open lot. Buildings and other structures can cause extra reflection. turn to channel 1. Flip the meter to CAL. Key the mic without talking. Now turn the CAL knob up until the needle reaches the little upside down triangle all the way to the right marked CAL. Now you have just celebrated your radio for your setup to measure you SWR. Now while still holding the key, flip the meter switch to SWR. The needle will move, and where it stops is your SWR reading. The lower the better. Anything under 1.5 is considered really good. But still, the lower the better.

Make note of what your SWR was on ch 1.

Now flip to channel 40. Repeat the SWR process. You must recalabrate each time you take a reading.

Now like jm77437 said. If your SWR reading is higher on 40 then 1, then your antenna is too long, and you must make it shorter. Loosen the collar and lower the antenna in the collar 1/4 inch at a time. check the swr each time you adjust the antenna.

If your SWR reading is higher on channel 1, then your antenna is too short. You must make your antenna longer. Do this by loossening the collar and pulling the antenna upward in the collar 1/4 inch at a time, again checking the swr each time you adjust the antenna.

What you want to achieve is having the same SWR reading on channel 1 and 40. then you have the best match you are going to get with that antenna.

If your swr is under 1.5 on all channels, you don't need to fuss unless you are a perfectionist. then by all means go ahead.

If your reading is higher then 3, or your ant light comes on, something is really wrong. Make sure your antenna is connected all the way, and the coax is not damaged.

Its important to have an appropriate SWR because if you do not, you are reflecting too much signal back into the radio, and eventually you will burn out your final transistor, and your radio will be toast.

Some tips: make sure you check the swr with the doors and windows shut. Make sure you are in an open lot. Remember to calabrate ecah time you take a reading. If you have had your radio peaked by a radio shop, and they have lowered your dead key, or have done a swing modification, then the meter in your radio will not work when taking an SWR reading and you will have to use an external meter.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Sep 24, 2009

SOURCE: how do you tune and peak a cobra 29 ltd classic

i would highly suggest you take it to a cb shop to get a cb tuned and peaked. before you do that though, make sure you have a good antenna system. a good antenna will have a much greater effect on your cb than tuning and peaking. as far as output, who knows? it all depends on the skill of the person doing the tuning. be warned that any output over 4 watts is illegal and you could recieve hefty fines if caught with an illegal radio.

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  • Posted on Oct 17, 2009

SOURCE: cobra 148fgtl low power on am/ssb no swing all finals ok

try adjusting the L36,L38 to the highest reading on the external meter and then adjust VR10 TO 4 watts. If this doesn't cure the problem, you have a weak final transistor. Good Luck

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Dec 23, 2009

SOURCE: cobra 29 classic "swing kit" ?

A swing kit is nothing more then a Cap and a resistor. There really isn't a different way to do a swing kit, unless you do variable power, which you don't need unless you are going to run a linear, and even then you can just set the dead key with a swing kit.

you need a watt meter, preferably one that reads peak and average watts. If not, average will be find.

Open the bottom cover of the radio. Hook the radio up to the watt meter, use a dummy load or have it hooked to the antenna. Never key the radio with an antenna or a dummy load.

Find VR4. Its toward the back right of the radio. Turn it all the way to the left. That increases your modulation.

Next find L14. it is at the back in front of the final resistor. While making a steady sound into the radio, just make an ahhhhhhh noise. Back the slug out of the tank until the needle hits peak. Don't move it out any more or you will over bias the final.

Now you will need a 220 uf electrolytic cap, and a 100 ohm 1/2 watt resistor, both of which you can get from radio shack. (this is your swing kit.

To the right of the tank slug is a jumper maked JP36. Us soldering wick to remove the solder and pull out the jumper. Now put the cap in it with the stripe facing the back of the radio.(that is very important. the other way you will blow the radio.) Solder it in place and cut the extra leads off. Now on the back of the board were you soldered in the cap, solder the 100 ohm resistor in between the 2 points.

The amount of resistance determines you dead key. you will be at about a 2 watt dead key which is good for swing and if you want to run a linear. The higher the resistor the lower the dead key, and the lower the cap, the higher the dead key.

That is your basic peak and tune with a swing kit.


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Will a mosfet 520 swing kit give me mor watage to my cobra 29 lx 29 lx

yes , but for the amount you get its hardly going to be worth it.this radio has all kinds of limiters in and it won't let you do one thing without doing this other thing first.A small 100 watt kicker will do a better job and nothing to do to the radio except turn the wattage down so its linier friendly.
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I bought a cobra 25 ltd classic with rfx 75 installed. Radio receives needle swings but won't move needle on Swr/power meeter

Firts off you are modding a radio to 75 watts in violation of FCC part 95.
I will not provide any solutions to anyone doing this.
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Yes you can turn up VR pot inside to recieve max level but will cause noise to be max too. I don't rightfully remember which one does it but I'll refer you to Defcom cb radio mods for a spec sheet
or Snakedoctors cb radio mods google site. Go to these radio mods sites on Google search and type in radio model. It will tell you what Vr inside to turn up RX of RF gain. Turn up modulation and written instruction if you are handy with solder gun how to change a resistor or cap to make it more sensitive recieve. How to replace final stage and resistors to 1/2 watt size for 6 more watts output and spread coils 1/8 inch apart like a comb for 100% microphone loudness or swing output. say 3 watts to 40 watts output. More windshield wiper swing in meter makes loud voice and extends range with Power final boost. Most people prefer to keep a mobile at around 11 watts swing to 45 watts.(but on generic radio meter will show 2 to 5 watts-its not accurate just a cheap indicator you are forward swing). Even though factory says 4 watts FCC hogwash. They come tuned from Cobra with 11 watts to 14-22 watts.Cobra really peaks them babies so competition doesn't beat them out like new louder radios made by Galaxy 55. Even though law says blah blah (corporations bend it)sales pitch Galaxy very heated with Cobra on the game(rich can do what they want)Galaxy is 20 watts factory with big promise to 40 watts dual finals. So Cobra updated and said "screw it we will break the law too" Now Cobra is loud as ever and offering their own super mod versions and dual final radios with 45 to 65 watts output with ranges on SSB & USB of 1500 miles on a strong good outdoor antenna.
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Get a "swing kit" installed for about $20
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Have the audio maxed out (simple turn of the VR4)
Have money to spend???
http://cbradio.auctivacommerce.com/IN-STOCK-EKL-POWER-BAND-RFX-75-P429725.aspx
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Cobra 29 modulation modification

did you make sure the caps stripe is facing the back of the radio? If not, its the wrong way.

Also, don't use a 1/4 watt resistor because it will get too hot for it to last. use 1/8th.

changing the cap size will not change output, however it will change the tone. Bigger the cap, the deeper the tone of audio.

to be honest with you, high output mods are worthless in these radios. they are fine with out them. mosfets are unstable and are very dirty transmit finals. As well if you are planning to use a linear you may hit it too hard unless its a high drive, in which case you will need more then 35 watts swing to drive it fully. A stock cobra 29 that has been peaked and tuned, then the swing mod put in, 220uf e cap and 100 ohm resistor, which should give you about 2 watts, should swing to about 27 watts, and kick an amp in the pants.

I run a cobra 29 in my blazer with a dave made 5 pill, and I key on 6 pills and I near keyed on a 2x8. very close. All that I have done to the radio is peak and tune, (of course I have a few tricks with that up my sleave which I don't usually share with just any one.) and variable power, wich will control the dead key, which is basically a varible swing kit. I run it just under 2 watts, just enoug to get a 125 watt dead key out of the amp. The amps swings over 920 watts.

any more swing from the radio will beat up the pills in the amp.
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Cobra 29 classic "swing kit" ?

A swing kit is nothing more then a Cap and a resistor. There really isn't a different way to do a swing kit, unless you do variable power, which you don't need unless you are going to run a linear, and even then you can just set the dead key with a swing kit.

you need a watt meter, preferably one that reads peak and average watts. If not, average will be find.

Open the bottom cover of the radio. Hook the radio up to the watt meter, use a dummy load or have it hooked to the antenna. Never key the radio with an antenna or a dummy load.

Find VR4. Its toward the back right of the radio. Turn it all the way to the left. That increases your modulation.

Next find L14. it is at the back in front of the final resistor. While making a steady sound into the radio, just make an ahhhhhhh noise. Back the slug out of the tank until the needle hits peak. Don't move it out any more or you will over bias the final.

Now you will need a 220 uf electrolytic cap, and a 100 ohm 1/2 watt resistor, both of which you can get from radio shack. (this is your swing kit.

To the right of the tank slug is a jumper maked JP36. Us soldering wick to remove the solder and pull out the jumper. Now put the cap in it with the stripe facing the back of the radio.(that is very important. the other way you will blow the radio.) Solder it in place and cut the extra leads off. Now on the back of the board were you soldered in the cap, solder the 100 ohm resistor in between the 2 points.

The amount of resistance determines you dead key. you will be at about a 2 watt dead key which is good for swing and if you want to run a linear. The higher the resistor the lower the dead key, and the lower the cap, the higher the dead key.

That is your basic peak and tune with a swing kit.


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My cobra 29 has a 75watt amp on the back how can i get more

If you're using the RFX-75 amp section. Then you'll need to make sure your transmiter section is tuned for full output. The last last unit I installed in a Cobra 29 LTD, the radio modulated right at 100 watts output.
Hope this helps,
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Tell me how to turn the raido power down to 1 watt so i can hook up my 350 watt liener? i need to find the schmatics so i can find the right knob to twist

There are no knobs for AM power in the cobra 29 LTD. Soldering 2 parts inside the radio is needed to do this. If you are not comfortable with soldering inside of the radio, take it to a technician.If you feel you are up to it, here is how you to do it.

First make sure VR4 is all the way to the left. This will turn your modulation to full and will make your audio louder.

Next you will need a 220 uf 35 volt capacitor and a 1/2 watt 100 ohm resistor.

Now remove JP36. It is located right in front of the final transistor in the back right that is bolted to the heat sink.

put the capacitor in its place with the black tab facing the back of the radio.( this is most improtant because if you don't face it the right way you will blow your radio). Solder it in place.

Next on the trace side of the board, where all the solder joints are, solder the resistor to the spots where the cap was soldered. So the resistor is in between the 2 points of the capacitor.

Now your dead key will be at 2 watts. Now, you did say you wanted 1 watt. From my experience, 1 watt is not enough. you will under drive the box and blow the pills in it.

If in fact you do need only 1 watt, you have to play with what size resistor you put on it. if you increase the value of the resistor, you will get a lower dead key. If you lessen it, it will make the dead key higher. Get a multi pack of 1/2 watt resistors if your going to do this.

BUT** 2 watts should be what you need.

So you know. There are 2 types of wattage outputs in an AM radio. There is carrier signal or dead key, and then there is modulation or swing.

Your radio is going to do 2 watts of a carrier signal or dead key, and when you talk the meter will swing up when you talk if you have peak reading meter. it it only reads average, it will only show your dead key with only a swing of about 4-5 watts.

For low drive amplifiers, the dead key is usually all that needs to be set. The swing should be turned up (thats why you turn VR4 all the way to the left) witch will give you just over 20 watts swing. this will drive the box good. Any where between 20 and 35 watts will dive most boxes good.

GOOD LUCK!!
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Low output power

On the meter you are using, does it mesure Average power or peak envelope power?

This is very important to know when you are measuring.

AVG measures basically your dead key. It usually will very little if at all.

PEP measures your peak output, or swing. Modulation.

So even if you have a radio that has been peaked, on a meter that reads AVG, it will still read around 3 to 4 watts. And, if it has a swing kit in it, it will read even less. A swing kit lowers the dead key it increase modulation. Higher PEP.

For example. I peaked my cobra 29 and it does some where around 22 -25 watts PEP. I have variable power in it as well, but usually run the dead key at 2 watts because I have a linear. The Radio alone, when mesureing on PEP with key up at 2 watts, and then when you talk, swings to about 22 -25 watts.

If I flip the meter to AVG, it stays at 2 watts even with talking.

If you have one of those cheap pyramid meters, etc, they usually only read AVG.

Get a meter from radioshack. They have a fairly decent radio for the money. It reads both PEP and AVG and has SWR as well.

If the radio has been peaked and it has a swing mod, it will most likely be swinging to some where in the 20 watt range.

On a side note. According to FCC regulations, a CB radio is only allowed to transmit with 4 watts of final power. Most times the manufacturer will have it a hair under so that they are leagal.

Basically it is illegal to use a CB that puts out more then 4 Watts.

But its a free for all these days. There is no more funding to the FCC for monitoring CB radio, so they do not want anything to do with it. As long as you don't over do it, have over 50000 watts and terrorize a small community with RF, you can do what you want.

Now a days most cb radio's bought have already been peaked if you got it from a cb shop, or off a website that does it.
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