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Grinding nose from timing cover and a tick from valve cover could that tick be chain slap or is the 2.4 a no tolarince motor

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The Tick is more likely worn lifters and cam. The grinding noise is most likely the timing chain guide is worn out or broken. Possibly a bad timing chain Tensioner. That IS an interference engine.

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