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Recemtly my pool sweep motor burned out so i had it rebuilt. I had to un wire the sweep side of the dual intermatic timer and when i tried to re ook it does not turn on. i was sure i unwired the two blacks from the load pins and put the green to ground. did i mis wire????

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Hi Tom - I located a source for you to download a copy of the manual for this timer, here. This timer has several variations - which can not be determined with 100% certainty by me from the info you provided in your question, but I believe your application is the large, bottom schematic called "Filter and Cleaner Timer Inter-connections".

If a 240 volt circuit, both the power source and motor load should consist of 2 hot wires and a single bare, green or green & yellow striped ground wire. The 240 power source wires connect to terminals 1 & 3 and the 240 volt sweeper motor would connect to terminals 2 & 4. It does not matter which of the supply wires connects to terminal 1 or 3 - nor does it matter which motor's wires connects to 2 or 4. It is not possibly to change the direction that the motor turns by swapping wires in the timer. The green (ground) wires must all be connected together.

I hope this was helpful & good luck!

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I have a T104 timer that runs my pool pump. I also have a switch that lets me turn on the pump from my house. The switch is wired to the timer. I switched out the T104 with the same and I think I messed up...

The instructions are available from Intermatic if you click on the below link.

http://www.intermatic.com/~/media/files/intermatic/products/instructions/timers/t104%20-%20english.ashx

240 volts will have two 120 volt lines and a ground(green or bare) or neutral (white) wire.

If your system is 240 volts the Red and Black wires are hot should be individually connected, one to terminal 1 and the second color to terminal 3. The load or pump in your case should be connected to terminal 2 and 4. If you want to wire a switch to the load you need to decide on how you want the switch act, 1) as an auxiliary on 2) as an emergency off. If you want an auxiliary on for the pump, you need a DPDT (Double Pole Double Throw) 40amp switch (what should be in the house). Run the appreciate gage of wire (AWG 8 for 40A) from terminal 1 to one pole of the switch and a wire from terminal 3 to the second pole of your switch. Next run wires from the switch contacts from the two remaining switch terminals to terminals 2 and 4 on the timer matching the Red side on the switch to and Red on the timer and Black side on the switch to Black on the timer. The timer will control the function of the pump, and the switch will turn the pump on when the timer is off. If you only have two hot wires coming from the house attach them to terminal 2 and 4. If you want an emergency stop you need to wire a second DPDT 40amp switch and disconnect the load wires from terminal 2 and 4 and connect each one to the opposite poles of the switch. Using the correct gage of wire you need to connect a red and black wire to the two separate terminals of the switch. When the switch is off the pump will not work but the timer will keep the current time. The color of wires may not be the same in that situation you will need a multi meter to identify the wires.

I need a little more information on the pool sweep timer. Are you using the same timer or just the power? Is the power 120 or 240 volts? When do you want the pool sweep to be active?

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My pool sweep had been doing fine. Now the new pump seems to be dragging as if it is running on half power and the sweep crawls slowly. The pump gets hot and shuts off. The pool filter pump on the left...

My opinion is that new pump is defective.

You posted under Intermatic pool timer.
The timer will not have any effect on the new pump overheating.

Insufficient wiring can cause new pump to overheat.
However if wiring is undersized, and/or if both pumps are turned ON at same time, the circuit breaker would get hot and trip.

Instead of the breaker tripping, your new pump is getting hot, and turning off.
Remember, any pump that slows down and overheats is getting damaged.
Replace the defective pump.
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I have two 220 Intermatic time clocks in a raintight box operating a pool pump and a sweep (cleaning) pump for my pool. The clock motor quit operating--it is an Intermatic WG1573 5 60Hz 3W. The front of...

1) Order 240V T100 series clock motor.
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/timer-accessories/timers/electrical/ecatalog/N-8hi
http://www.amazon.com/Intermatic-Clock-Motor-Leads-WG433-20D/dp/B0031DOHLG

2) Order extra trippers too since they are designed to wear down so they don't damage tripper lever.
Put dab of white (bicycle) grease on the tripper lever.

3) Turn power off.
Mechanism snaps out using thumb-spring located inside box at top.
Clock motor is held with two star-screws. Buy bit at auto parts store.
Clock motor wires attach to terminals 1 and 3
Reattach terminal screws very tight against copper wire and make sure wire-insulation is not caught under screw clamp.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html
To re-set current time, lift and rotate dial until current time lines up with silver pointer.

4) See next generation of Intermatic pool timers that snap into same box.
New timer controls 3 separate circuits with different schedules for each circuit, so the single timer can replace both mechanical timers. Wiring is complicated, programming is complicated. I am still reading the manual, and it makes sense to me, so you can trust fixya to help in event that you replace your timers next ten years.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001DSEC7A/ref=asc_df_B001DSEC7A1417045?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=dealt581-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395093&creativeASIN=B001DSEC7A

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For a price, expert speaks with you over phone while you work on timer or any do-it-yourself project.
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The right side is for the pool sweep. The timer wheel doesn't move around and keep in time with the left side which is for the pool.

If timer wheel doesn't rotate on time, then clock motor is probably bad.
Probably the wheel is getting stalled a bit when tripper comes into contact with on-off lever, because motor has lost power.
Add a bit of grease where tripper come into contact with on-off lever.
Intermatic T104 is 240Volt clock motor
Buy T100 series 240V clock motor from grainger:
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/timer-accessories/timers/electrical/ecatalog/N-8hi

Notice also that link above also shows extra trippers.
Trippers are designed to wear down before on-off lever, so timer mechanism lasts longer.

To install clock motor, snap mechanism out of box using thumb spring at top.
Motor is attached with 2 small star screws.
Notice that motor has plastic gears so motor is designed to stop working before rest of timer.
Motor wires attach to terminals 1 and 3, tighten screws very tight against copper wire.
Make sure no part of the wire insulation is under screw plate when tightening.

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