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Anonymous Posted on Oct 02, 2011

Replaced capacitor on sega game gear for sound but I get a blast of sound in the backdrop I hear whistle noise whats going on. Is it because i used a 220 uf 50 volt capacitor and if so then why am i getting this result whats causing it

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    Iron Oct 02, 2011

    What capacitor did you remove? Make sure you got the negative and positive leads right. Electrolyte capacitors (look like a can) have a neg and pos lead.

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    Iron Oct 02, 2011

    Respond to my question and I will gladly further assist you. Regards,
    Tony

  • Anonymous Oct 03, 2011

    I replcaed the electrolyte capacitor and it's the one to the side thats closest to the head phone jack.

    It was 47 uf and 4 volts but I changed it because well i thought thats what i needed to do.

    Got sound but no idea whats up with this background noise

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Hi,
Replace it with the same capacity and value, a 47mf 10V will do.
Hope that helps!

  • Anonymous Oct 03, 2011

    As for your problem about the power consumption. The cathode tube that lights up the LCD screen is the one that eats up the power. The upgrades is to replace the cathode tube with a bright white light LED, thus the power consumption will be lessen tremendously.. An external battery pack can be use with the D size battery. Look for a TV tuner cartridge that tunes to local tv network!

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  • A capacitor stores energy and releases upon command. You went from a very small capacitor to a rather large one. The 50 volts just means how much Voltage the capacitor can take before it will fail (pop it's top, literally). That whistle is either to much going to the board, you put that electrolyte capacitor in backwards, you have a cold soldier joint or a pooling of soldier.

  • Were you trying to get something different from using a larger capacitor? Or were you just trying to get sound? You should always use the same capacitor as the one you took out unless you are modding in which case you might want to fill me in on the mod and take a picture of the capacitor in the board (both soldier side and part side) so I can see the work. If you were just trying to get the sound you have lost then remove that capacitor and use the same rated capacitor you removed. Radio Shack should have that in stock.

  • If you have any comments please feel free to leave them here.
  • Hope this helps and thank you for using FixYa.

Regards,Tony

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  • Anonymous Oct 03, 2011

    Actually Ironfist109 I was just trying to get sound and well... **** nice feedback that actually helped out alot

    As for a mod, well i Do have one in mind but seing as how I gave myself one mistake to another and i did not know what to do Im new to all this

    I would like to make a reavmped sega game gear honestly.

    I want to replace all the bad capacitor's, replace the light for the screen with led's, attach a modern up to date recharchable battery system, and lastly I would like to make it so that if i possible I can mod that tv adapter that was made for this thing and give it a external tv output that you can use to plug the thing into a bigger one.

    And you would use the thing itself as the remote as normal.

  • Anonymous Oct 03, 2011

    Also quick question

    I had this white noise sound before hand, true i go tno sound out of the speackers but the headphones worked

    And i still had a faint noise in the background then.

    All the result that happened with changing the capacitor was the volume got a hell of alot louder and it comes out of the speacker know

  • Iron
    Iron Oct 03, 2011

    Yea, it is is louder because you are volting the transistor, so it will be louder. So the board is responding to the capacitor put into it. Did you check the soldier joints on the headphone jack? That jack takes a lot of abuse so that would not be a bad place to look. I don't like to hear a whistling out of my boards. You might try taking the capacitor down a notch. Say 100uf 15V and see how it sounds then. Louder than it was but not overkill. Mess around a bit and see what happens. Keep the original capacitor around just in case so you have something there you know will make it work right.

  • Iron
    Iron Oct 03, 2011

    Keep me in the loop though if you want. I'd like to know how your hack turns out.

  • Anonymous Oct 03, 2011

    Why does the board need a capacitor i dont know much about electronics but i assume that the juice the batterys are spitting out would enough

    And you say it's louder because you are volting the transistor

    what do you mean by volting what causes the effect that makes it louder as you go higher voltage

    and as for soldir joint's...... I didnt check the bottom i just ripped it off and put a blob of solder on and tipped it and then soldered the ends of the capcacitor onto it

    why does the bottom matter

    Also yeah this thing is beat up, the inside has a bunch of caked on debris on the sides of the case, well inside the case on those sides

    and when i got this the batterys were corroded as **** i cleaned it out but..

    and on the inside the silver part it's like some of it is gone, like it's been peeled off like it was paint.

    This is my first hack by the way, I tried making a portable gamecube but.....
    I didnt double check the pin points while i was soldering the wires thought it was fine plugged it in, started to spew out smoke and died,....... i didnt wire the right pin to ground it before hand

    and sense i'm talking about this what about the wire themselves....
    How do i know how thick of a wire i need or what type, they all seem the same to me im sorry for all these questions

    but i'm a total newb

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        No problem, that's what I am here for. sometimes more Voltage is necessary than what is being supplied from a power source. Capacitors store direct current (DC) and release when needed to add move voltage, in this case more voltage to the transistor which creates more sound. Transistors being silicon or FET'S (Mosfet) and in a couple capacities. The main one being like a faucet (on off valve if you will). Thos loud stereos you hear in cars, or anywhere, have Amps with high power, often several, transistors in them.




        "I didnt check the bottom i just ripped it off and put a blob of solder on and tipped it and then soldered the ends of the capcacitor onto it why does the bottom matter."




        The bottom is the soldier side of a circuit board. Ripping off the old capacitor can really screw the board up, especially if yo take a tracer with you. You need to remove the old legs from the capacitor and soldier the new capacitor in nice and easy paying attention to the neg and pos. The neg lead on a electrolyte capacitor has a stripe or other marking on the side of the can. Ceramic capacitors (the ones with a little round orange head on them) do not have a pos/neg reference to them.





        "Also yeah this thing is beat up, the inside has a bunch of caked on debris on the sides of the case, well inside the case on those sides and when i got this the batterys were corroded as **** i cleaned it out but.. and on the inside the silver part it's like some of it is gone, like it's been peeled off like it was paint."





        an eraser is the best thing to get clean battery terminals and minor corrosion. To clean a board you can use some flux. Be careful when using it as it is meant to clean before soldiering so if you drop it on a board don't get it on the contacts unless you are going to un-soldier them. It's also got a powerful smell so ventilation is strongly recommended.





        "I didnt double check the pin points while i was soldering the wires thought it was fine plugged it in, started to spew out smoke and died,....... i didnt wire the right pin to ground it before hand and sense i'm talking about this what about the wire themselves"





        You probably smoked a protective diode. They act like a fuse and are soldiered into the board to help ruining the entire board in such a case. Look for a cracked electronic component. More than likely a resistor or diode.





        "How do i know how thick of a wire i need or what type, they all seem the same to me im sorry for all these questions but i'm a total newb"





        You don't want to go up in gauge in wire unless you really know what you are doing because a thicker gauge wire will allow more current through and and can overload something. Here is a little chart that may help http://www.oznium.com/forum/topic15761 there is an equation that helps one figure this out. Most the wires inside your PSP will more than likely be a 22 gauge.





        The information you got was because the capacitors in question are relatively small and not of much concern but be advised to not mess with any big ones, if you plan on doing much hacking, they can kill you quick.

  • Iron
    Iron Oct 03, 2011

    I should say capacitors and transistors work with AC power and store Voltage (energy in general).

  • Anonymous Oct 03, 2011

    No problem, that's what I am here for. sometimes more Voltage is necessary than what is being supplied from a power source. Capacitors store direct current (DC) and release when needed to add move voltage, in this case more voltage to the transistor which creates more sound. Transistors being silicon or FET'S (Mosfet) and in a couple capacities. The main one being like a faucet (on off valve if you will). Thos loud stereos you hear in cars, or anywhere, have Amps with high power, often several, transistors in them.

    So what does a transistor do, uhh what does it look like because everything looks tiny to me, i only knew what i pulled off was a capasitor because i looked up some tutorial.

    Also why does it need to store it into a capacitor, doesnt the current form the battery cycle through everything within a second and every second that the game gear remains on
    that alot of well current why can it just take from that

    The bottom is the soldier side of a circuit board.
    umm....
    the top side is where all the capacitors and small stuff is at, and thats where it's all soldered so wouldnt that be the solder side what special about the bottom side looks like it has everything it needs on the top

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    Iron Oct 03, 2011

    The capacitors I am referring to are much larger than the ones in your unit. These are used on Amps, Generator, Power Supplies things like that and are big as your thumb. The soldier side of the board is where the circuitry is soldiered in. Ripping pieces off can not only ruin the board but gives poor results, not recommended at all. The duty cycle of a battery and the reason for capacitors is a very deep subject. If you want to hack some things up you may want to take an introductory class to electronics at your local community collage. Easy schedule and it will blow your mind when you start really learning this stuff and the price is cheap.

  • Anonymous Oct 03, 2011

    Okay but im still lost as to why i need a capacitor and what a transistor is and what it does, along with why i need it if it does exatly what a capacitor does.

    Anyways heres my thought on the white noise
    untill I have the source to replace the capacity with a more proper rating
    hres my thought

    When i installed the new capacitor the only thing that increased in volume was the music, i still had the static before i changed it and it didnt increase in volume

    So if that's the case and i had it before hand then the factor of it being the capacitor is false. Sense the capacitor swap wasent a factor before hand therfore it cant be the capacitor.

  • Anonymous Oct 03, 2011

    And why cant the thing just take the current that constantly goes through all the circuts every second while the thing itself is running.

    Why does it need to store it

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I apologize for not getting back to you sooner on this one, to be honest, im not terribly familiar with replacing capacitors on game gears, however that would appear to be the issue, someone else might be better suited to help with the technicalities on that one. Sounds like Ironfist109 knows what he's talking about. Again, sorry I wasnt any more help =\

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