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Battery died. Charged Palm Z22 (many times), let it drain (many times), performed hard, soft and warm resets. Palm will not turn off using power button. The resets show the first Palm screen but never the Palm Powered screen. It just changes to a grey, blank screen (stays lit but blank). When I try the UP button + reset, I get a 4-color block screen and then "S3C2418A Downloader Connecting USB..." screen, but nothing happens whether it's connected to PC or not. The screen is obviously ok, or I wouldn't be getting the first Palm screen or the USB screen. What do you suggest?

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  • robin-dusty graves Jan 28, 2019

    What you describe fits the description perfectly of an almost dead Z22 battery. I deliberately ran down a number of batteries to see what happens on a Z22 BOOT SEQUENCE. If the battery does not show high enough voltage during BOOT, the Z22 will shut down. However, if the battery dies or shorts out during "shutdown", the shutdown sequence will not work properly. If you connect a +5 Volt USB source - during "shutdown", the Z22 can "hang" and give strange screens. This fits perfectly. If you open the Z22 and remove the dead/shorting Lithium battery, and quickly wire in 3 AA batteries, you can quickly boot properly and TEST that the Z22 works properly. In fact, once the Z22 does boot, you can remove the batteries, and it will happily keep working on the +5 Volt USB source, since the Z22 "thinks" the battery is working just fine. You see the entire Step-By-Step process at: http://kidbots.com/WEBADD/Z22_PALM_PILOT...
    I am surprised that fixya.com did not pop-up with my previous 32 ANSWERS for Z22 Questions. The inane "answer" to Replace It, is funny, and not an answer at all!
    Good Luck
    robin dusty graves

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Replace it.

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Just had to do a hard reset myself and it's not straight forward! While holding down the power button, BRIEFLY press the reset button on the back of the palm. DO NOT RELEASE the POWER button until you see the GRAY screen with the Palm logo (not the first screen with the palm logo). That should start the hard reset for you.

Posted on Aug 23, 2007

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SOURCE: Palm z22 touch screen screwed up

clean the touch screen and go under the edges w/ a bankcard to remove any dirt.
then do a hard reset -- worked for my z22
c boekema

Posted on Aug 06, 2008

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SOURCE: palm z22 usb cable connection problem

Hello Every body,

I had the same problem, and went to the device manager. It said the driver was gone. So to solve this, Just uninstall, and reinstall the software. And it will Sync. at least it did for me.

Hope this helps,
Dakotah

Posted on Aug 13, 2008

Anonymous

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SOURCE: PALM Z22

Your problem might be a simple one. Hopefully so:

Run a business card around the edges of the screen between the screen and the plastic housing to see if there is any trapped dirt or other debri. If there is, it will hold down that point of the screen and prevent any further input. Be sure to remove anything you find.

Also, sometimes the screen protectors themselves will shift just enough to cause the same issue. Be sure it is not wedged tightly between the screen and case.

I hope this is it and helps!

Posted on Aug 29, 2008

Anonymous

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SOURCE: how to do a hard reset on a palm z22?

Hi here are the steps but ensure to backup data before you make a hard reset
Press and hold the power button
While holding the power button, use the tip of the stylus (or a similar object without a sharp tip) to gently press and release the reset button inside the hole on the back of your handheld.
Wait for the Palm Powered™logo to appear, and then release the power button.
When you see the message that warns you about erasing all of the info on your handheld, do one of the following:• Press Up on the 5-way navigator to finish the reset and show the touchscreen.• Press any other button to do a soft reset.
When prompted, tap to align the screen, and then select the language you want to use on your handheld. A screen appears showing the Palm logo and a progress bar.
When the Welcome screenappears, the hard reset iscomplete
Hope this helps and do let me know

Posted on Mar 07, 2009

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Palm z22 touch screen not responding touchscreen


The Z22 palm PDA is subjected to 3 points of failure. I got a used Z22 and discovered all 3 over the course of a few years. The touchscreen digitizer on the front is a plastic sheet on the top, and a glass screen on the bottom. Invisible layers of conductive paint are facing each other. Simply carrying the Z22 in your pocket, purse, briefcase, or even storing it in a drawer with pencils, staplers, rulers, etc., will, over time, deform the screen, and the damage is cumulative, so that the screen gets worse and worse. It is imperative to have a solid sheet of plastic or hard material over the screen at all times that you are not using it. Leaving the Z22 in direct hot sunlight will heat up and soften the screen, making the problem worse. Carrying the Z22 screen in your pocket on a hot day when you are sweating, will do the same. People report that the Z22 will work in a cool place like North New York, but the screen will quit, when they travel to Florida (hot). I have temporarily fixed the touchscreen by putting it in a ziplock, and sticking it in the freezer to shrink the top layer of plastic. That only worked twice. Then I use a hair dryer to heat the screen VERY hot, to shrink the screen - which worked very well, until I put it in a soft zippered camera case, which gently pushed the screen. Then I took the screen apart completely ( which no one has ever reported doing) and this worked amazingly well, -again- until I put it in a soft case that pushed the screen against the glass backing. I eventually replaced the touchscreen ($10 free shipping from China). All the information is on my tiny website at

http://kidbots.com/WEBADD/Z22_PALM_PILOT/Z22_PALM_PILOT.html

The Z22 is incredibly well designed, and after ripping it apart a dozen times, and carrying it around under extreme heat and freezing cold, I would have to give the original design team at PALM, 5 stars. Your data, on the device, even though the screen may be dead, is very safe, and unless you do a HARD RESET, the data is stored on permanent memory. I had problems with a weak and dying battery, which ALL Z22s are now experiencing, since the decades of time, even with a "new" in the box, sealed Z22 will have. Low glitches of power on the battery seem to cause the BlackScreen of Death, where the LOGIC circuits that control the ON/OFF/SLEEP etc. functions get out of sync, and the unit will not charge or turn on until ALL power is removed ( typically, after a few weeks the battery drains to dead ).

All these problems are discussed and solutions posted, with photos on my website. Also are discussions on what to do with the Z22, where to get parts, how to maintain the Z22, and how to get data off the device onto the new 64 bit WINDOWS computers...

Good luck. The Z22 was an amazing device in its day, and people report that there were a few software programs for it that have never been made since - hence, they still use it...

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Palm z22 touchscreen not responding


The Z22 palm PDA is subjected to 3 points of failure. I got a used Z22 and discovered all 3 over the course of a few years. The touchscreen digitizer on the front is a plastic sheet on the top, and a glass screen on the bottom. Invisible layers of conductive paint are facing each other. Simply carrying the Z22 in your pocket, purse, briefcase, or even storing it in a drawer with pencils, staplers, rulers, etc., will, over time, deform the screen, and the damage is cumulative, so that the screen gets worse and worse. It is imperative to have a solid sheet of plastic or hard material over the screen at all times that you are not using it. Leaving the Z22 in direct hot sunlight will heat up and soften the screen, making the problem worse. Carrying the Z22 screen in your pocket on a hot day when you are sweating, will do the same. People report that the Z22 will work in a cool place like North New York, but the screen will quit, when they travel to Florida (hot). I have temporarily fixed the touchscreen by putting it in a ziplock, and sticking it in the freezer to shrink the top layer of plastic. That only worked twice. Then I use a hair dryer to heat the screen VERY hot, to shrink the screen - which worked very well, until I put it in a soft zippered camera case, which gently pushed the screen. Then I took the screen apart completely ( which no one has ever reported doing) and this worked amazingly well, -again- until I put it in a soft case that pushed the screen against the glass backing. I eventually replaced the touchscreen ($10 free shipping from China). All the information is on my tiny website at
http://kidbots.com/WEBADD/Z22_PALM_PILOT/Z22_PALM_PILOT.html
The Z22 is incredibly well designed, and after ripping it apart a dozen times, and carrying it around under extreme heat and freezing cold, I would have to give the original design team at PALM, 5 stars. Your data, on the device, even though the screen may be dead, is very safe, and unless you do a HARD RESET, the data is stored on permanent memory. I had problems with a weak and dying battery, which ALL Z22s are now experiencing, since the decades of time, even with a "new" in the box, sealed Z22 will have. Low glitches of power on the battery seem to cause the BlackScreen of *****, where the LOGIC circuits that control the ON/OFF/SLEEP etc. functions get out of sync, and the unit will not charge or turn on until ALL power is removed ( typically, after a few weeks the battery drains to dead ).
All these problems are discussed and solutions posted, with photos on my website. Also are discussions on what to do with the Z22, where to get parts, how to maintain the Z22, and how to get data off the device onto the new 64 bit WINDOWS computers...
Good luck. The Z22 was an amazing device in its day, and people report that there were a few software programs for it that have never been made since - hence, they still use it...
robindustygraves Sept 2014
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1. Press and hold the power button.

2. While holding the power button, use the tip of the stylus ( or a similar object without a sharp tip) to gently press and release the reset button inside the hole on the back of your handheld.

3. Wait for the Palm Powered logo to appear, and then release the power button.

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I believe that this problem relates to the BlackScreenOFDeath or BSoD - which is caused by a low or weak battery allowing the CONTROL Logic circuits to get into an invalid state where the ON/OFF/SLEEP/CHARGE/ FUNCTION transistors are niether on nor off. I would recommend getting a new battery as soon as possible. Doing a SOFT RESET "may" get you temporarily going again. DO NOT do a HARD RESET !. I have posted many discussions on the Z22 that you may find helpful, on my tiny website,
http://kidbots.com/WEBADD/Z22_PALM_PILOT/Z22_PALM_PILOT.html
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http://kidbots.com/WEBADD/Z22_PALM_PILOT/Z22_PALM_PILOT.htm
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clean the touch screen and go under the edges w/ a bankcard to remove any dirt.
then do a hard reset -- worked for my z22
c boekema

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