White Sewing 1409 Mechanical Sewing Machine - Answered Questions & Fixed issues

top thread is not tensioned enough

are you sure you followed all steps? Make sure you followed the threading diagram correctly. You must pull your thread through a hole in the bobbin,threading from the inside of the bobbin to the out side .hold the thread on the outside of the bobbin and wrap thread around the bobbin shank twice. Hold the thread in place and find the groove on the bobbins' outside then match that to the "wire" on the spindle of the winder. You will then disconnect the drive by turning the small knob inside the hand wheel. Next ,you will push the bobbin spindle against the small wheel to create traction to turn and fill the bobbin. My guess is that either the bobbin was not in place or you forgot to push the winder against the traction area. Happy sewing.

if it fits, doesn't bind or hit anywhere and looks about the same, why not give it a try. I found a lot of parts are shared from one brand to another mainly because they are manufactured by an outside source and supplied to many. There are also "aftermarket manufacturers" that may offer replacement parts under the original part number. These "after marketers" are usually the original manufacturers that originally made it. Try EBAY if you have a part #.

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You will have to get to the pulley on the motor to slacken it off to make the belt loose to pop it off

all machines thread the same. TTN tension, take up, needle.
Beginning with the spool, guide the thread through the thread guides to the tension assembly. Pull the thread through the tension assembly and test it to make sure the tension is working correctly.
(To do this test, adjust your tension setting to normal or medium or 5 or something in the middle. Raise the presser foot and pull the thread through the tension. It should pull easily!! Lower the presser foot and pull the thread. It should pull noticeably harder.) If it passes this test, continue up through the take up lever,then down through the thread guides to the needle. Make sure your needle is fully inserted and turned the correct way.( If you load your bobbin case from the left side,the needle rule is normally FLAT to the RIGHT is RIGHT. There are some exceptions. If you have a newer style drop in bobbin or your bobbin case loads in the front then the rule is FLAT to the BACK.
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Have you adjusted the pressure of the presser foot yet? If you don't have enought pressure... it won't feed properly. Here's a manual for you.... read through it carefully.http://www.singerco.com/uploads/download/1070_white-1409-new-x.pdf

Look at singerco .com and under support look at manuals. Enter "W1409" If singer has it it should pop up as a purchase or a download. Good luck.

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go to the singer website---free pdf downloadclick on customer support- there's a drop down menuchoose instruction manualin the box type w1409---exactly the way it shows hereclick searchit's a free pdf file

Try these following steps:1. Look to see whether the thread loopsappear on the fabric back side. If this is the case, the tension on your sewingmachine is too loose.2. Check to see if your fabric ispuckering on the front side when you sew. If this happens, then your tension istoo tight.3. Adjust your needle thread tensionwith your machine threaded and your presser foot pedal down.4. Turn your thread tension dial asneeded. If you increase the number on your tension thread dial, you will beincreasing the tension on your sewing machine. If you are lowering the numberon your tension thread dial, you will be decreasing the tension on yourmachine.5. Clean your thread tension with asmall piece of paper or a toothpick. Slide the toothpick or paper between thediscs to remove any tangles of thread.Hope this will help you. Good Luck.

i have a problem threading my machine 5805c

you can download a manual from here
http://www.singerco.com/accessories/instruction-manuals

in the search field type in W1409 and click "search" you can then download the manual for free on pdf.

just raise the presser foot, manually wind the fly wheel down so the needle is close to the needle plate, then measure with a ruler from the needle to the markings on your needle plate. If you find that it does not have a 5/8" marking and you need one, then mark one with an indelible marker, or stick on a piece of masking tape where the line would be so you can guide your sewing fabric edge along it.

You did not perhaps change needles and inadvertently put it back the wrong way around?

get a manual for it from Ifixmachines.com they have it for 6.88 should make it a lot easier to operate.
http://ifixmachines.com/White-Model-1409/White-1409-Instruction-Manual/ilvm_fly1_blue.tpl.html?keyword=1409

Hello,

Please apply the below recommendation to solve the problem of your machine that loop up

When customers bring their sewing machine in for repair at my shop, a frequent complaint I hear is the thread bunches under the fabric. This usually then leads to a jam of some sorts and the customer fiddling with the tensions and oiling everything in sight. The finished result is a machine that is jammed, tensions out of whack and a slippery machine.


Thread bunching can be a symptom of a few ills your sewing machine may have. Some ills are easily rectified and some others I would recommend you take the machine to your nearest sewing repair shop.

Usually, thread bunching under the fabric is a symptom of something wrong above the fabric. There is an inverse relationship between fabric and thread (top of fabric is bottom thread, bottom of fabric is top thread). Most people think thread bunching on the bottom is the bobbin/bottom thread. This is incorrect. We must look for problems starting at the needle and upwards.

Follow the checklist and instruction below to repair the thread bunching issue. If by the end of the steps the problem is not fixed you should bring it to a sewing repair shop.

THREAD MACHINE - This first and easiest thing to do is to re-thread the entire machine. Pay special attention to the take-up lever and the tension assembly.

Always have the presser foot in the UP position when threading the machine. This opens the tension disc to allow the thread to nestle inside the assembly.
Make sure the thread passes through the take up lever
Make sure you inserted the thread in every thread guide

NEEDLE - I always recommend a sharp needle. You may not notice any slight bends, burrs or dullness in the needle which would throw off the timing and the stitch quality.

SPOOL CAP - If you have a horizontal spool pin a spool cap is very important. Its also very important the spool cap covers the end of the spool of thread but make sure its not too big or it will throw off the thread tension.

TOP TENSION DIAL - The setting should be between 3 and 5 on most machines.
Make sure thread is in-between the tension discs. On some machines you can visually see the discs. On newer machines it is hidden.
The best way to know if you threaded the tension assembly correctly is to put the presser foot in the DOWN position. Now take the thread from the right of the tension assembly and pull. Is there tension on the thread or does it pull out very easily? If it pulls out easily you threaded it incorrectly. Try it again -- see step one.

FEED DOGS - Be sure the feed dogs are moving and feeding the fabric evenly. Turn the hand-wheel towards you a few times. Can you see the feed dogs moving up and down? Feed dogs are located on the needle plate.
If the feed dogs are not moving
Some machines have a lever to engage and disengage the feed dogs; make sure they are engaged.
If they still are not moving then you may a broken gear.

Now you can test your sewing machine. Set the machine to the widest zig-zag and the longest stitch length. Put a test cloth (one fold in the fabric) under the presser foot and give a go for about 20 or 30 stitches. Did it jam? Is there bunching? I hope not!

Now check the stitch quality. Look at the stitches on the test cloth. Is the thread knot visible on either side of the fabric? The knot should be invisible. This means the knot is nestled between the layers of the fabric and you cannot see it. This is a good indicator of a good stitch.

If you can see the knot, then your tensions are out of balance and they need to be adjusted. All sewing machines have a top tension and a bottom tension. Both tensions must be in balance to have a good stitch quality. It takes quite a bit of experience to balance tensions correctly. I do not recommend doing it yourself.

If you have any questions please feel free to leave me a comment.

Good luck and thanks for using fixya.

On the singer website on the home page look for
Instruction manuals at the bottom of the page-click on it
Put in your model number w1409 & click search

Do you have a manual?
You can download a free manual from the Singer site.
http://www.singerco.com/accessories/manuals.html
Just type in w1409 and click on search.
On the next page click on the free download option that corresponds to your model.
The manual will explain how to thread your machine and how to set the tension.
I hope this is helpful to you.