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This is for an 1979 Honda CBX. I installed new float needles and seats. Also, I adjusted float levels to factory specs. All carbs are still flooding.

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I PRESUME YOU THOROUGLY CLEANED THE FLOAT NEEDLE SEAT?AND INSPECTED THE NEEDLES FOR LIKENESS COMPARED TO THE OLD ONES, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO IGNORE THE FACTORY SETTINGS PLACE THE CARBS ON THE BENCH WITH A FUEL SUPPLY CONNECTED AND ADDJUST EACH FLOAT UNTILL THE LEVEL OF FUEL IS BELOW THE OVERFLOW TUBE ALLOWING ENOUGH ROOM FOR THE FLOATS SO THAT THE LEVEL STILL LYES BELOW THE TUBE WHEN FULLY ASSEMBLED, COMPLETE THIS TEST BEFORE FIXING THEM TO THE BIKE, WHEN YOU ARE HAPPY REPLACE THEM BACK ON THE BIKE,

PS IS THE NEEDLE SEAT AVAILIBLE SEPERATLY MAYBE WORTH INVESTING INSOME NEW 1S IF THEY DO

YOU COULD HAVE THE CARBS ULTRASONICALY CLEANED

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You'll need to first start off by removing your carb. Be sure to clean the surrounding area to the best of your ability to avoid dirt and debris falling into your carb; or worse, your engine. After you've removed your carb I would suggest a thorough cleaning using carb cleaner (or equivalent) and compressed air to ensure that all jets and passageways are spotless. Avoid using wire or other tools to clean orifices of jets; it's all too easy to alter their original designed dimensions.

After your carb is clean you can now set your float level. The picture below will allow you to become familiar with the parts that are responsible for maintaining the correct float level in your carb. There are four basic parts, the floats themselves (part of the float assembly), the float assembly tang, the fuel inlet needle valve, and the fuel inlet valve seat.

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(Float assembly pivot pin not shown.)


It is always a good idea to remove the float assembly pivot pin (already shown removed) and extract the float assembly and the fuel inlet needle. The fuel inlet needle is a wearable part and over time can deteriorate. A worn fuel inlet needle can contribute to an irregular float level. Most fuel inlet needles consist of an internal spring loaded bumper (which contacts the float assembly tang) and a plastic or Viton (rubber) tip. Inspect the fuel inlet needle tip for wear and/or damage. To give you an idea, Eric Gorr recommends replacing the fuel inlet needle/seat assembly every two years. I've found that the average cost is around $15 for both parts.

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(Fuel inlet needle shown with Viton (rubber) tip. The Viton is used to isolate the fuel inlet needle from vibration and to create a better seal against the fuel inlet valve seat.)

Now that you've made sure you aren't going to have any issues from worn parts you can reinstall your needle, float assembly and float assembly pivot pin and continue on to set your float level. The float level measurement is taken from the top of the floats (when the carb is positioned upside down) to the gasket surface of the float bowl as illustrated in the next picture. You can use an open-end wrench (sized per your spec), a small metric ruler, or a float level gauge. The tolerance for your float level is usually around +/- 0.50mm.

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When setting the float level be aware that the spring loaded bumper on the fuel inlet needle valve may have a tendency to compress under the weight of the float assembly which will skew your measurement. Before you obtain your measurement you'll need to make sure that the float assembly tang just barely makes contact with the spring-loaded bumper. Sometimes it is easier to hold the carb body at a 45-degree angle to avoid compressing the spring in the fuel inlet needle.

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If you find that your measurement does not match your float level spec then you can carefully bend the float assembly tang to achieve your desired measurement. Be sure to recheck your work, and if you feel confident that your float level is spot on then you can reinstall your carb and get back to riding.
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Dear Craig,
Presuming that the carb is clean !
It seems that you have either set the float level incorrectly, or allowed the needle to become jammed. The float bowl should a little less than 3/4 full of fuel when the fuel is shut off by the needle and seat.
Check that the needle and seat are working correctly by blowing in the fuel pipe, and then closing the needle by hand. Check that the flow is stopped when the needle is fully raised.
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