2003 Harley Davidson FLSTF Fat boy Logo
Anonymous Posted on May 30, 2010

On my 2003 fat boy all oil from tank is in engine and won't return whats the cause ? runs real rough

  • A Miller May 30, 2010

    I dont understand ... oil from what tank.

  • Anonymous May 30, 2010

    all engine oil from horseshoe oil tank is in crankcase and won't return to tank. runs but shakes like mad

×

1 Answer

Anonymous

Level 3:

An expert who has achieved level 3 by getting 1000 points

All-Star:

An expert that got 10 achievements.

MVP:

An expert that got 5 achievements.

Brigadier General:

An expert that has over 10,000 points.

  • Master 4,565 Answers
  • Posted on May 30, 2010
Anonymous
Master
Level 3:

An expert who has achieved level 3 by getting 1000 points

All-Star:

An expert that got 10 achievements.

MVP:

An expert that got 5 achievements.

Brigadier General:

An expert that has over 10,000 points.

Joined: Sep 22, 2009
Answers
4565
Questions
0
Helped
2156011
Points
14358

Ok, I'm not exactly sure what the problem is on your Twin Cam but I can assure you that it is oil pump related. One the earlier models with the external pump, you had two pumps in one body. One pump was a "feed" pump that pumped oil into the engine. The other pump was a "scavenger" pump that pumped oil out of the engine back to the tank.

When Harley designed the Twin Cam engine, they employed a better design of pump inside the engine. It's located in the gear case along with the cams. I do not know too much about the Twin Cam engine as I specialize on the older Evolution, Shovelhead, and Panhead engnes. The older engines had a breather gear that used the crankcase pressure built up inside the engne to blow the oil from the crankcase into the gear case. I don't know if the Twin Cam still uses that method of getting the oil out of the crankcase and into the gear case.

So, with my limited knowledge of the oil pump on the Twin Cam, I'd say that this is the problem. You need to find someone that is familiar with the construction of the pump. It may be that the entire pump is bad or something as simple as a sheared pin.

Good Luck
Steve

  • Anonymous May 30, 2010

    The scavenge portion of your oil pump is not working for some reason. The old Ironhead Sportsters were notorious for this. But, the gears in the oil pump were driven by these small pins. Any bit of trash that got into the pump would shear the pin of the scavenge gears and the feed gears would pump all the oil into the engine but the scavenge gears could not pump it out and back to the tank.



    The Big Twins would do it as well but they used small keys to drive the gear. The ' Evo models were bad about breaking a tooth off the plastic breather gear. The tooth would wind up in the scavenge gears of the pump and then the main drive key would shear stopping the pump altogether.



    I wish I could tell you more about your pump but due to my limited knowledge of the Twin Cam oil pump, the only thing I can tell you to do is to take it someone who know what he is doing in that area.



    Good Luck

    Steve

  • Anonymous May 11, 2011

    A seldom talked about Twin Cam engine problem is crankshaft shifting. Unlike the Evolution and Shovelhead cranks, the TC crank is a press-together unit where the crankpin is a "hard" press fit into the two flywheels halves. Under most circumstances, this design works well. However, in some cases, under hard deceleration and acceleration or ground-pounding tire burnouts, the three-piece pressed-together crankshaft can twist out of true, sometimes as much as .030-inch, or even more in the worst situations. Ideally, the crankshaft should be trued during assembly to within .001-inch. Under high power and torque conditions, a TC's flywheels can shift on the crankpin, causing the crank assembly to become severely out of true. This results in a severe wobbling of the right-side pinion shaft, which is located in the camshaft's gearcase. A wobbling pinion shaft often causes catastrophic damage to the engine's oil pump and cam support plate along with a loss of oil pressure and oil scavenging. Early warning signs include loud noises from the engine's gearcase area, ticking lifters, and oil dumping out of the cylinder head breathers.

×

Add Your Answer

×

Uploading: 0%

my-video-file.mp4

Complete. Click "Add" to insert your video. Add

×

Loading...
Loading...

Related Questions:

0helpful
1answer
0helpful
1answer

What is the drain plug that is on the right side of the bike at the front of the engine. Looks like a second oil drain

It is not a second oil drain, the only oil drain is from the oil tank at the rear . DO NOT touch the front one you are talking about.
0helpful
1answer

Bike began running rough so I changed the oil, cleaned the K&N air filter and now the 2003 FatBoy Fuel Injected, dies after about 20 seconds of idling and is gurgling and spitting massive amounts of...

"Oh, and now I can\'t even read the oil level on my dipstick due to the fact it is significantly LOW" This is not a good sign. Now, my expertise is NOT on the Twin Cam bikes but I do try to help when I can. In your case, if your engine were an earleir Evolution or Shovelhead engine, I'd say that you had sheared a scavenge gear drive key in the oil pump. Now, I do not know a thing about the oil pump in a Twin Cam as I've never worked on one. It sounds like your oil pump is not scavenging (sucking) the oil out of the engine and pumping it back to the oil tank. Once the pump pumps the oil into the engine, it stays there. Thats why you're seen the "massive amounts of oil spitting out of the little hoses behind the air cleaner". Take your bike to a dealer or qualified shop as soon as possible and I'd refrain from running it. An engine full of oil would also expain why the engine does not want to run as well.

Good Luck
Steve
0helpful
1answer

I want to do 30000 mile oil change myself. what do i need to look for or change besides the oil change?

There is an oil drain plug on the bottom of the engine. Drain the oil, as well as replacing the oil filter which is usually on the side. Real easy process. The hardest part is keeping from getting any oil on the floor or the engine.
2helpful
1answer

What is the difference between a 2005 efi gas tank and a carburetor model

I believe all 2005 Fat Boys were EFI and no production models w/carb. Generally, the difference between an EFI tank and carb tank is that the EFI has a fuel return port. If you look at the left side bottom you will see what appears to be two fuel lines. One is supply and the other is return from the fuel pump. I believe 1999 was last year of carbed Fat Boys. Left side tank has only one fuel supply port.
0helpful
1answer

How to change oil on 2002 fat boy

The drain plug is a hose that comes down to a sprung clamp on the frame behind the gear box on the right side of your bike. Remove from clamp then undo the screw-ring round the hose to allow the plug in the hose to be removed, take lid off oil tank and turn engine over a coupla times to clear engine oil into drainage tank. Replace plug- etc before refilling with half the oil, turn engine over coupla times then add remaining top up oil. Drainage for your primary oil is at the rear inside near the gasket joint and can be removed with a Hex spanner, taking the large outside cover off your primary with star drive sockets to allow airflow for drainage and then to pour new oil in through after replacing drainage plug in the bottom. Buy a Manual Mate, its worth it eh considering the value of your bike?
Not finding what you are looking for?

580 views

Ask a Question

Usually answered in minutes!

Top Harley Davidson Experts

Arnie Burke
Arnie Burke

Level 3 Expert

7339 Answers

Sean Wright
Sean Wright

Level 3 Expert

2045 Answers

ZJ Limited
ZJ Limited

Level 3 Expert

17989 Answers

Are you a Harley Davidson Expert? Answer questions, earn points and help others

Answer questions

Manuals & User Guides

Loading...